Absolutley! Sadly a rather simple answer, just the wretched automatic checker coming up with 'bourbon' for 'our own'.

(I suppose it's a result of Tory cuts to our education system, degraded to the
point where US giant, Microsoft think we can't be trusted to write on our own! )

(I suppose it's a result of Tory cuts to our education system, degraded to the
point where US giant, Microsoft think we can't be trusted to write on our own! )
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Conspiracy theory leads one to conclude that if we educate the masses to a level that encompasses simple spelling then they are more likely to question such heady topics as :- why are politicians allowed to breed let alone run a Country ?

Well, that might seem odd, but politicians don't run the Country. The country is actually run by the Prime Minister wholly on her own, helped only by stroppy PA and a Graduate researcher. Everything is her decision and responsibility, no one else is involved.

NOTE ironically, there have been a lot of media reports, including on the BBC where politicians, particularly sensible Tory ones' are saying this.

OTE is correct when he says that the issue is "hunting for fun".
Whether foxes or other wild animals need controlling is a separate issue.
To unearth and then pursue a wild animal to a horrible death in the name of "sport" in the supposedly enlightened 21st Century is unacceptable.
It's all about money and social climbing.
If you want to help to keep this barbaric practice banned (well illegal!)and to bring about further bans on other cruel "sports" look here.
I'll give you one pertinent quote from the site.....
"Foxes are also captured by hunts and kept in ‘artificial earths’ or disused buildings, so they can then be released in front of the hounds during the hunt. This proves that fox hunting is nothing to do with ‘fox control’ or ‘wildlife management’, as the hunts claim, and is purely about providing sport for the hunters."

I stand corrected . One learns something new on an almost daily basis . Thank you for the enlightenment .

The image of a bunch of West Berkshire's finest floundering around a muddy field, armed, scratching​ their heads and wondering when the pizza season started is somehow appealing and worrying at one and the same time. 🤣

Yes, I think we've all learned something about the state of the governing political party at the moment, but that's exactly as its being portrayed.

It beggars belief that this large group of apparently intelligent and assertive individuals could have idly stood by and watched this preventable disaster, certainly for the Country, happen.

So, given this, does anyone still believe these unprincpled, self centred, graspers are fit to run the Country anyway?

Who? Labour? Deffo not.

No dearest, all those TORY MPs coming forward saying Mrs May 'did it all on her own' she simply wouldn't listen to any of them.....in other words, not a lot of point in them even being there at all.

How long has it taken you to reach this conclusion ? Anyone who is arrogant enough to stand for election should be prevented doing so on the grounds of questionable mentality .
The "alternative" though is even worse .
1 President May / Corbyn / Other ?
2. King / Queen having absolute power .
3 Military Junta .
4 Angela Merkel .
5. ISIS
6.Me
7.Other.
My problem is not the competence of those who court our support but the sycophantic grovelling of their respective supporters who wrap themselves round the leg of the top table in order to receive a crumb of acknowledgement and so keep them in power .
The Greeks tried democracy and chucked it in the bin after a couple of years because it didn't work . The problem is no one , even after 3,000 years ,has developed a viable alternative .

As someone often says on this Forum, we deserve what we get.

I genuinely believe Labour would do a better job at the moment. I don't trust them on the economy, in particular their polarised view of employer/employee. Employers bad, employees good, but I reckon even with that, they will do less damage than May will with her Brexit stance. I met a lady of 82 today who's voted Conservative all her life but voted Lib dem last week because of Brexit.

Wouldn't disagree with that. Sadly the Unions are still being somewhat Luddite. The Ger an example where workers actually sit on boards is far better. Ironically, much more socialist because it treats workers as stakeholders rather than simply wage serfs. Maintaining that combative position means arguably the Unions are supporting the repression of the workers.

Hope the good Lord Buckethead gets a candidate to stand in Newbury at the next election.

His manifesto (worth a read) makes far more sense than either of Labours, the Tories or the Lib Dems.

Vote Buckethead!!!

The bottom line is that Labour promised the moon and the heavens in the supposed knowledge that they would not be put in a position where they had to deliver so the mathematics did not matter . Unfortunately the great unwashed quite liked Mr Corbyn and his bag of gold and decided to give him a go . This , with not a little help from the student vote , very nearly reaped it's own reward . The fact that paying for it would fall on the shoulders of the same young only reinforced the burning question regarding our whole approach to education .
Now we all know that the shires are full of people who would rather sleep with their Mother than vote anything other than Conservative . So we find ourselves in the curious position of a party with 318 seats is deemed a loser and the one with 260 odd the winner * .
Little doubt the May camp showed all the arrogance of a sword wielding gladiator facing a motley crew of slaves equipped only with running shoes but history has shown that strange things happen and all that is needed is for those who voted LibDem to realise it is a wasted exercise and Jeremy could well be our next PM .
One certainty though , from a subjective stance , is that those very foot shooting gaffs as the dementia tax and removal of the triple lock will never see the light of day . Strange bedfellows are the DUP .


* NB. My reference to the education system

JC or the Messiah as he is also known will actually be a bit worried. His manifesto was written with the knowledge he couldn't win. His next one will have to be written with the mindset that he may win. And that will create problems for him. He's also far happier as the leader of a protest movement. He wouldn't be happy being in charge.

Winning would mean being able to form a government without help. Bet the Conservatives now regret not supporting our LibDem proportional representation.

PR would have left them with over 40 fewer seats - so I very much doubt that they regret that decision.

Nor the SDP . PR will never be accepted or wanted . Whether it is beneficial to the greater good is open to debate , as are the advantages of having a government with a working majority over a minority administration .
Why they can't pull together for the common good is very frustrating .

No I don't know either , maybe I meant the SNP ..........Senility is a bugger !!!

People didn't want the LibDem coalition and moaned about it. We got a Conservative government with majority and still they moaned about it. We now have a Conservative government without a majority and still the moaning goes on. What do you want a Labour government? I'd like to see a LibDem/Labour/SNP government, it seems like the only real alternative.

But that only amounts to 309 seats . 9 short of the present incumbents . Which ever way you cut it the Ulster boys hold sway .
Both Conservative and Labour increased their number of votes , mainly at the expense of UKIP , so I very much doubt if the outcome would change if we repeated the wretched process next week .
Like the EU farce the populace will never be happy with the outcome . Like they say " you can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time " ...........But you can try .

Why indeed!

Nonetheless, lets be really honest about it the DUP are Tories; simply relatives they wish they didn't have. A few years back the foaming mouth brigade had their own party in the basement in the UK. Didn't a certain Mrs May christen the Tories 'the nasty party'?

What goes round comes round. At least Mr Corbyn has demonstrated that real Labour is electable so just give it time.

Tick, tick, tick.....

A lot of the people I work with feel that way about Labour. One lady who is usually ax staunch LibDem says she thinks if they agree on most things and if they'd had a proper alliance with Labour the result would have been different.

Yep. Turkey's voting for Christmas.

To say the DUP are Tories is rather like suggesting that Attila the Hun was a Seventh Day Evangelist in drag .( Other religions are , I am reliably informed , available ).
I agree quite a few of the 1922 club would like to follow a more right wing strategy but even they know their limitations .
The crazy part of the whole episode is that a party with 10 MPs can dictate to one with 318 and restrict the views of one with 262 .
That's democracy folks .

Didn't stop Brown having nice long cosy chats with them, did it.

#forthemanymanymanymanymanymany
#thefewwillleave

Just like France and EVERY country that has tried it. Tax take drops. Country worse off. But hey everyone feels better about it all.😂

Not saying that raising taxes on the rich is wrong. Just that you are going to have to stop them leaving. Border control. Thats the answer.😂

Of course it didn't any more than Vincie from the LibDems 'had chats'. That's what coalitions are supposed to be about! Not like Cleggy ones, where you have to put on the same clothes.

Fact; Conservatives are Conservative and Unionist party. Conservatives don't like being reminded about their right wing bed partners any more than Labour, who used to get stroppy when anyone mentions Co-op, but at least they only run shops these days.

I can see what TDH finds do funny now. Its like a live Monty Python.

No, let's hold the door open!

Take you TDH, the ulcers you are going to get from worry will be a drain on the NHS, you aren't going to be convinced, so as the saying has it 'we don't want to loose you but we think you ought to go'. Do it now, before it's too late.

What's wrong with that? A few days back, the Tories were claiming that one Woman MP could and was dictating to a party with a reasonable majority! Was Mrs M a DUP sleeper all along

I had a boss who always claimed he'd triple his salary if he went to the States. When we got taken over by a US firm, he was one of the first to get the chop.

Foot "loose" and free. Loving it!!! I gave up worrying years ago. All ducks are lined.

Everyone needs an exit strategy, gold and foreign property are good bets.

Buk, Buk, bukaaaaaaaaaaaark!

Droll, very droll. What passes for humour amongst poor people one supposes. 😯

"A poor man wants the oyster
A rich man wants the pearl
But the man who can grin when he hasn't got a thing
He's the king of the whole wide world!"

Whatever makes you happy, try buying groceries with a grin though.

Bet the chap who coined that one didn't want for much . The collective cake is of a given size , ( usually referred to as the GDP ) , and is therefore divisible by the those at the table . Some have a crumb , some have a chunk so big that a few crumbs fall down to the "privileged " few at his/her feet ,and some starve . JC , ( the first one not the present ), must have dined out for a long time on that trick with a loaf of bread and dead fish .

Clearly you haven't.

Actually, it's one of my worries. All these 'rich Tories' emigrating and our international reputation plummets. Do you really think Canada or New Zealand wants hordes of miserly old codgers with a sense of entitlement flooding in, swamping their services with all their demands yet not wanting to contribute much save a bit of cash? No, I'd rather have the young and fit we could get in return who are willing to do even menial tasks to help us move forward.

Seriously, liquidate your assets and join your fellow travellers, with our blessing and hope that the wadge lasts long enough.

In reality, the 'poor' don't actually want much at all. Provision of a half decent home, a job an income they can be content with, a reasonable health service and something that gives the kids the practical basics to survive. Nothing too hard there; it's what 'One Nation' conservatives aspired to provide, not much different truth to tell to the socialist vision.

So as to your cake, us unwashed don't really want anymore than a small slice. Which means that the envy for a bigger cut of the cake comes from those who already have a much bigger slice than everyone else, but still want even more.

Worth thinking about other people and their needs because then you might just find that meeting their needs enable you to protect yours even tighter.

On the principal that if a man has a penny and you double his wealth by giving him another ,is he happier than the millionaire who has just made £10,000 ? I very much doubt it . We all want to better our living standards but quite simply some are more adept than others at succeeding .
In a perverse case of irony had the third reich achieved it's deplorable aim most of us alive today would come from selective breeding stock and therefore be at the top of the global pile .
Should we all adopt an altruistic approach to the plight of others or continue to support a system of welfare handouts via taxation ?
Maybe the real problem is that modern media brings the plight of others into our homes to the extent our collective consciousness feels compelled to help .

I'd just say that there but for the grace of God go I. I find selfishness will always be recognisable by most and being well off when all around are not, is not as much fun as it sounds.

Lovely society we aspire to eh?

Ahh, the democratic process,. Labours vision.

"John McDonnell has urged unions to mobilise a million people 'on to the streets' in a bid to oust Theresa May.
The shadow chancellor - who has previously praised London rioters and backed 'insurrection' against the government - said a march would help increase pressure on the Prime Minister.
Left-wing groups are plotting a protest in the capital on July 1 demanding that Mrs May step aside from power - despite the Tories still being by far the largest party in the Commons after the election. "

........and?

Sorry, but people have always taken to the streets to protest against things they don't like which the majority do. Countryside Alliance and the All in it together Remainers being other examples.

Ah, so using the unions to support insurrection on the capitals streets is a good thing. So sorry, should have read JC's little red book earlier.

More hysterical rightie cooblers.

Or is it? The truth is out there. Still All Hail King of Cord!