Incident at London Bridge, Why do Abbott and co insist on calling them "Incidents" Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I log "incidents" with Microsoft.

I'm not a crazed jihadi islamic extremist.

Call it what it is. And don't use this PC cr@p.

Also how many terrorist attacks in frequency does it take to become an insurgency??

[Turin Machine]

I think TM's speech was an appropriate response. Root and branch.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I think TM's speech was an appropriate response. Root and branch.

Agreed. This will just continue. You can't negotiate woth people who want to die. Round them up and where evidence is found, get rid. And tell the human rights lawyers to do one.

[Cognosco]

Agreed. This will just continue. You can't negotiate woth people who want to die. Round them up and where evidence is found, get rid. And tell the human rights lawyers to do one.

But exactly who are you going to round up? Until they, whoever they are, commit some offense then how are you going to detect them it would appear that those that have committed these atrocious acts were actually born in Britain as far as I am aware??

It's the same as saying round up all the burglars but until they have burgled or stating they are going to burgle who are you going to round up. Just wish it was that easy to say round them up and it was that easy to say who "they" are!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

But exactly who are you going to round up? Until they, whoever they are, commit some offense then how are you going to detect them it would appear that those that have committed these atrocious acts were actually born in Britain as far as I am aware??

It's the same as saying round up all the burglars but until they have burgled or stating they are going to burgle who are you going to round up. Just wish it was that easy to say round them up and it was that easy to say who "they" are!

MI5 know who they are and they sure aint burglars. Just so I get this right your solution to the problem is...

1. Get rid of Nuclear weapons
2. Dont interfere in any foreign war no matter what the circumstances
3. Disarm the Police
4.Wait for these poor misunderstood people to tire themselves out killing people before arresting them

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[Cognosco]

MI5 know who they are and they sure aint burglars. Just so I get this right your solution to the problem is...

1. Get rid of Nuclear weapons
2. Dont interfere in any foreign war no matter what the circumstances
3. Disarm the Police
4.Wait for these poor misunderstood people to tire themselves out killing people before arresting them

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Where did you get the idea that the above you have quoted are my solutions???
show me where I have stated that please?

If MI5 knew who they are why have they been allowed to commit these atrocities, are you saying MI5 are not doing their job properly?

I was certainly not disagreeing with dealing severely with any terrorists just pointing out that it would be very difficult to round "them" up as you say when you are unable to identify "them"?

Please explain how you identify someone who is going to commit a terrorist act from someone who is not?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Where did you get the idea that the above you have quoted are my solutions???
show me where I have stated that please?

If MI5 knew who they are why have they been allowed to commit these atrocities, are you saying MI5 are not doing their job properly?

I was certainly not disagreeing with dealing severely with any terrorists just pointing out that it would be very difficult to round "them" up as you say when you are unable to identify "them"?

Please explain how you identify someone who is going to commit a terrorist act from someone who is not?

You would rather wait to see if someone commits an atrocity rather than apprehend them before? And Im sure you'd be the first trying to get them released as they hadn't killed anyone just yet.

[Cognosco]

You would rather wait to see if someone commits an atrocity rather than apprehend them before? And Im sure you'd be the first trying to get them released as they hadn't killed anyone just yet.

Just answer the question asked. How do you identify someone who is going to commit an atrocity?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Just answer the question asked. How do you identify someone who is going to commit an atrocity?

I'd start with anyone practicing shariah. Thats normally a good indicator. Oh and those holding up placards with things like "death to the infidels" and "make London Londonistan" Also anyone returning from a "holiday" to places like Somalia, Libya, or an extended trip to Turkey. Oh and yes profiling works.

Then Id insist on CCTV and sound in all the mosques.

It may impinge on freedoms but its a small price to pay.

[Cognosco]

I'd start with anyone practicing shariah. Thats normally a good indicator. Oh and those holding up placards with things like "death to the infidels" and "make London Londonistan" Also anyone returning from a "holiday" to places like Somalia, Libya, or an extended trip to Turkey. Oh and yes profiling works.

Then Id insist on CCTV and sound in all the mosques.

It may impinge on freedoms but its a small price to pay.

So what you are suggesting is round up all Muslims, is that a correct interpretation?

And how do you know someone has been on holiday in those countries you have listed if they first go to another country and then back to another EUropean country before coming back to Britain?

I am not disagreeing with the idea of rounding up terrorists but trying to demonstrate it is not quite as easy as you are implying. If you can demonstrate just how easy it is I feel sure the security services, police and the General public at large will be very grateful indeed.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

So what you are suggesting is round up all Muslims, is that a correct interpretation?

And how do you know someone has been on holiday in those countries you have listed if they first go to another country and then back to another EUropean country before coming back to Britain?

I am not disagreeing with the idea of rounding up terrorists but trying to demonstrate it is not quite as easy as you are implying. If you can demonstrate just how easy it is I feel sure the security services, police and the General public at large will be very grateful indeed.

Where have I said all Muslims? You said that.

[Cognosco]

Where have I said all Muslims? You said that.

Read my last post again!

That was how I interpreted your reply, hence the "is that correct" which is why I asked you to clarify?

Do try to answer the queries given rather than try to obfuscate with a non answer.

All I am trying to elucidate is how do you identify and round up those who you think will be going to commit these terrible types of atrocities. If you can demonstrate how to do this you will have my full backing plus the gratitude of most Britain's.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Read my last post again!

That was how I interpreted your reply, hence the "is that correct" which is why I asked you to clarify?

Do try to answer the queries given rather than try to obfuscate with a non answer.

All I am trying to elucidate is how do you identify and round up those who you think will be going to commit these terrible types of atrocities. If you can demonstrate how to do this you will have my full backing plus the gratitude of most Britain's.

Go hug a terrorist. I have already suggested ways. You chose to ignore them. Cos it suits your agenda. You can come back again if you like as I know you have to have the last word. The pub bore.

[On the edge]

Go hug a terrorist. I have already suggested ways. You chose to ignore them. Cos it suits your agenda. You can come back again if you like as I know you have to have the last word. The pub bore.

Yep, Cognosco is wholly 'on side'. All he wants to know is how we can do it with one added word, successfully. Yes, you have suggested ways, but they've all been tried in various places before and simply don't work. Those solutions are like saying the common cold can be easily cured, if the sufferer simply drinks bleach.

[je suis Charlie]

Yep, Cognosco is wholly 'on side'. All he wants to know is how we can do it with one added word, successfully. Yes, you have suggested ways, but they've all been tried in various places before and simply don't work. Those solutions are like saying the common cold can be easily cured, if the sufferer simply drinks bleach.

Well, you can always console yourselves with the thought that if hug a Jihadist don't work you can always defend your family and friends by waving a unicorn horn at them. That'll work. Personally I think I spot a new opportunity, I'm looking to invest in a company that makes body bags. Gotta be a winner.

[On the edge]

Well, you can always console yourselves with the thought that if hug a Jihadist don't work you can always defend your family and friends by waving a unicorn horn at them. That'll work. Personally I think I spot a new opportunity, I'm looking to invest in a company that makes body bags. Gotta be a winner.

So, then, what's your answer, or hasn't the Mail got round to telling you what to say yet?