CoronaVirus, Nature will find a way Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Toooo many people in the world...

#justsaying

[SirWilliam]

Toooo many people in the world...

#justsaying

One day something will sweep across the planet and that will be that. Read an article a number of years ago that purported that it may well have been a viral pandemic that wiped out the dinosaur, as their resistance was effected by climate change owing to the Chicxulub asteroid.
For asteroid read climate change and start worrying.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

One day something will sweep across the planet and that will be that. Read an article a number of years ago that purported that it may well have been a viral pandemic that wiped out the dinosaur, as their resistance was effected by climate change owing to the Chicxulub asteroid.
For asteroid read climate change and start worrying.

People may laugh but I just acquired 4 surgical face masks. Someone I know works at a company that supplies them and a major ahem online retailer just tried to buy all of them (50000) in one go...presumably so they could rake in a massive profit. They were turned down...

[TallDarkAndHands...]

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[TallDarkAndHands...]

We are all doomed!!!

[SirWilliam]

People may laugh but I just acquired 4 surgical face masks. Someone I know works at a company that supplies them and a major ahem online retailer just tried to buy all of them (50000) in one go...presumably so they could rake in a massive profit. They were turned down...

Very doubtful that a surgical mask would offer little more than basic protection from a virulent pathogen. I would be more concerned over the public's laissez faire attitude to seasonal flu vaccination than a hypothetical threat from yet another asian respiratory disease.

Mind you I have been wrong before..........

[je suis Charlie]

Very doubtful that a surgical mask would offer little more than basic protection from a virulent pathogen. I would be more concerned over the public's laissez faire attitude to seasonal flu vaccination than a hypothetical threat from yet another asian respiratory disease.

Mind you I have been wrong before..........

Nope you're right. And the flu will kill far more people than this ever will, as will smoking and obesity. Still, fills newspapers

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Nope you're right. And the flu will kill far more people than this ever will, as will smoking and obesity. Still, fills newspapers

Lots of folk never made it to hospital in wuhan...thousands dead fella.

[SirWilliam]

Lots of folk never made it to hospital in wuhan...thousands dead fella.

Lose a couple of million and I doubt the authorities will worry unduly. The area under observation has a population of 60 million which is comparable to the whole UK, just imagine putting the whole country isolation. Least it would shut queen nicola up for a day or two.

[je suis Charlie]

Lots of folk never made it to hospital in wuhan...thousands dead fella.

More hyperbole, "The death toll from the new virus, which is officially called 2019-nCov, now stands at 259. "

Still, don't let facts get in your way. 😁

[TallDarkAndHands...]

More hyperbole, "The death toll from the new virus, which is officially called 2019-nCov, now stands at 259. "

Still, don't let facts get in your way. 😁

Us thick brexiteers dont do facts fella. Surely you know that?
Though I did predict Trump, Boris and Brexit.
Next up.... a global pandemic. Maybe not Corona but something else like bird flu... gonna happen. It's a cert. It's in certain peoples "interests"...

[je suis Charlie]

Us thick brexiteers dont do facts fella. Surely you know that?
Though I did predict Trump, Boris and Brexit.
Next up.... a global pandemic. Maybe not Corona but something else like bird flu... gonna happen. It's a cert. It's in certain peoples "interests"...

Just out of interest, what size tinfoil hat do you take?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Just out of interest, what size tinfoil hat do you take?

Oh I'm full Carole Cadwalladr mad cat lady mad.
And I dont take myself seriously. 👍
With regards to tinfoil hats, I used to wear one but am now in a full hazmat suit.🤣🤣

[SirWilliam]

Oh I'm full Carole Cadwalladr mad cat lady mad.
And I dont take myself seriously. 👍
With regards to tinfoil hats, I used to wear one but am now in a full hazmat suit.🤣🤣

With regards to "not taking yourself to seriously", little doubt you are pleased to know that you are in the company of others who don't either.

[x2lls]

Has the somewhat jocular attitude changed yet?

[je suis Charlie]

Has the somewhat jocular attitude changed yet?

Not much, wait! Thinks Haz tickly throat! Oh Noes! Is dyin! Stayz in bed for two weekz.

[SirWilliam]

Has the somewhat jocular attitude changed yet?

Hello, thought you had gone on a long term sabbatical. As you can see we are still taking issues aired very seriously, especially those that effect my pension.
On the matter of coronavirus, anyone would think bubonic plague was rampaging across the planet. More people have died on Italian roads in the corresponding period than from this virus but no one suggests closing the autostrade.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Hello, thought you had gone on a long term sabbatical. As you can see we are still taking issues aired very seriously, especially those that effect my pension.
On the matter of coronavirus, anyone would think bubonic plague was rampaging across the planet. More people have died on Italian roads in the corresponding period than from this virus but no one suggests closing the autostrade.

Was on the tube today and wiped my forehead and let our a little cough. Suddenly had some extra room...😂

[SirWilliam]

Was on the tube today and wiped my forehead and let our a little cough. Suddenly had some extra room...😂

Never thought I would say this, but, can we have the brexit debate back, pleasy please.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Never thought I would say this, but, can we have the brexit debate back, pleasy please.

Plenty of tubers wearing masks today. Think it's quite a good idea. Not for Corona but overall...the amount of illness I have picked up on public transport....👍

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Never thought I would say this, but, can we have the brexit debate back, pleasy please.

St Barts students just got back from North Italy.... #justsaying

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/29...y-hospital.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51684624

Waits for town to be "quarantined"...

[spartacus]

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/29...oronavirus.html

#justsaying...

[TallDarkAndHands...]

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/29...oronavirus.html

#justsaying...

Bit of profiteering going on as well...face masks and gels have spiralled in price...what I don't get is this...if some of the let's call them criminal element get it (mildly) in city centres and they decide to start looting etc...who is going to stop them? We ain't China and I can just imagine the hissy fit the left would throw if they took punitive action (see China)...

[SirWilliam]

Bit of profiteering going on as well...face masks and gels have spiralled in price...what I don't get is this...if some of the let's call them criminal element get it (mildly) in city centres and they decide to start looting etc...who is going to stop them? We ain't China and I can just imagine the hissy fit the left would throw if they took punitive action (see China)...

Anarchy! Complete breakdown of society with the country being run by the military followed quickly by civil war and ultimate demise of the human race.
Or, Boris can come up with a plan and everything in the garden will be roses. One of these is scenarios is a banker as they say.

[je suis Charlie]

Bunkers built, toilet rolls and sanitiser stocked up on, new attack dogs slowly being starved, razor wire installed, machine gun post built on the top of the summer house, just a few last Claymores to go in aaand, we're ready. Come get some!!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Bunkers built, toilet rolls and sanitiser stocked up on, new attack dogs slowly being starved, razor wire installed, machine gun post built on the top of the summer house, just a few last Claymores to go in aaand, we're ready. Come get some!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-51731422

😷🚾⚠️☣😂

[je suis Charlie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-51731422

😷🚾⚠️☣😂

Got a few cases of Corona beer as well, it was going cheap!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Got a few cases of Corona beer as well, it was going cheap!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail....rink-lager.html


👍😂😂😂

[SirWilliam]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail....rink-lager.html


👍😂😂😂

Anyone who thinks the human race is worth saving is delusional. The pork chop I had for tea had more cranial capacity than half of america combined, but who am I to judge.

[newres]

Toooo many people in the world...

#justsaying

It's the elderly that are most at risk so should be a rebalance of politics.

[SirWilliam]

It's the elderly that are most at risk so should be a rebalance of politics.

Forgive my ignorance but weren't the old young once? I know I was and my political viewpoint has have not changed that much.

[James_Trinder]

There have been a few posters put up in my office instructing on exactly how to wash hands and also to avoid spitting.

[newres]

Forgive my ignorance but weren't the old young once? I know I was and my political viewpoint has have not changed that much.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articl...eneral-election

[je suis Charlie]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articl...eneral-election

Good oh, still by the time your lot gets in you'll be in the blue rinse brigade.

[James_Trinder]

Good oh, still by the time your lot gets in you'll be in the blue rinse brigade.

I wouldn't count your chickens on that. Keir Starmer is actually fairly electable so if they chose him rather than one of the other two then they might actually have a slim chance of being elected in 2024.

[SirWilliam]

Good oh, still by the time your lot gets in you'll be in the blue rinse brigade.

Maybe,just maybe, those who traditionally vote Tory and possibly have a better standard of living tend to live longer than those who struggle and would probably support labour. It's by no means an exact science but it would be interesting to know if anyone has done research.

Now I suppose the left will accuse me of all sorts of heinous thinking and demand a public inquiry, but it's a thought.

[je suis Charlie]

I wouldn't count your chickens on that. Keir Starmer is actually fairly electable so if they chose him rather than one of the other two then they might actually have a slim chance of being elected in 2024.

Corbyn had a cult following remember? Centre stage at Glasto, "Oh Jeremy Corbyn", "we're gonna change British politics forever", We're ready to govern, just hand us the keys", remember all that? Worst showing in three generations.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

It's the elderly that are most at risk so should be a rebalance of politics.

Sounds like you are almost hoping for a cull of the old. Sad. Bigly. Crazy Newres!

[SirWilliam]

Sounds like you are almost hoping for a cull of the old. Sad. Bigly. Crazy Newres!

We have to die of something. This way the intellectually challenged can pat themselves on the back and blame the "rabid right".

[TallDarkAndHands...]

We have to die of something. This way the intellectually challenged can pat themselves on the back and blame the "rabid right".

Even though the poorest and oldest will be the ones that die...still if it helps Newres feel better about Brexit... 👍

[Biker1]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articl...eneral-election

Proves the point......"the older you get, the wiser you get!"

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Proves the point......"the older you get, the wiser you get!"

Have you listened to the people that have recovered. 6 or 7 weeks later and they are still struggling. Why have we heard nothing on the possible longterm effects?? And is this really why China went all out to contain it. In a society like China losing a couple of million old folk ain't gonna cause a problem. 100 million young people inacapiciated and unable to work for a prolonged period is...🙄

[je suis Charlie]

Proves the point......"the older you get, the wiser you get!"

The younger you are, the stupider you are.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

The younger you are, the stupider you are.

How old is Newres?😂

[SirWilliam]

The younger you are, the stupider you are.

I think that is a given but what is of more concern is the singular lack of intelligence gained as they age. When we allow parents to ignore medical advice on infant vaccination programmes or the elderly refuse the seasonal flue jab because they choose to listen to "social media" instead of using an element of common sense, it shows how "thick" society remains irrespective of age.

Now before some clever clogs points out the obvious on viral infections one should remember that TB was eradicated in this country and now it's returned, measles the same, but through sheer ignorant stupidity we are facing a new threat which may or may not wipe out all mammals on the planet, (it is after all a zoonotic virus which means having come across from animals to humans it is just as likely to be carried around by your pet pooch). And all this is down to ignorance when we have the knowledge at our fingertips to prevent such outbreaks in the first place.

The virus itself has no such problem and is quite happy to live anywhere.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I think that is a given but what is of more concern is the singular lack of intelligence gained as they age. When we allow parents to ignore medical advice on infant vaccination programmes or the elderly refuse the seasonal flue jab because they choose to listen to "social media" instead of using an element of common sense, it shows how "thick" society remains irrespective of age.

Now before some clever clogs points out the obvious on viral infections one should remember that TB was eradicated in this country and now it's returned, measles the same, but through sheer ignorant stupidity we are facing a new threat which may or may not wipe out all mammals on the planet, (it is after all a zoonotic virus which means having come across from animals to humans it is just as likely to be carried around by your pet pooch). And all this is down to ignorance when we have the knowledge at our fingertips to prevent such outbreaks in the first place.

The virus itself has no such problem and is quite happy to live anywhere.

The virus is already mutating. A second much more dangerous edition is already spreading... it won't kill the world but it will be like a Spanish flu. Was always coming.

[SirWilliam]

The virus is already mutating. A second much more dangerous edition is already spreading... it won't kill the world but it will be like a Spanish flu. Was always coming.

Darned foreigners, despite exiting Europe we are still getting the little blighters arriving on our shores. On a serious note I would be interested to know why Italy is taking such a battering. No obvious reason why and it's inhabitants supposedly have a good diet, (according to my GP anyway), so I can only conclude that they live in close proximity to their elderly relatives who are more susceptible.

But of course they haven't got a prime minister to instruct on hand washing technique.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Darned foreigners, despite exiting Europe we are still getting the little blighters arriving on our shores. On a serious note I would be interested to know why Italy is taking such a battering. No obvious reason why and it's inhabitants supposedly have a good diet, (according to my GP anyway), so I can only conclude that they live in close proximity to their elderly relatives who are more susceptible.

But of course they haven't got a prime minister to instruct on hand washing technique.

Italians are very personal in interactions...kissing a lot etc. This might be partly why. On a lighter note the Germans have issued new sex instructions..

😂😂

[SirWilliam]

Italians are very personal in interactions...kissing a lot etc. This might be partly why. On a lighter note the Germans have issued new sex instructions..

😂😂

Brilliant!!! Always rely on the Germans to take a practical position. So snogging Italians is off my revised bucket list along with my annual visit to "Helga" but my immediate problem is how do I purchase toilet rolls without running the vitriolic diatribe of my fellow shoppers?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Brilliant!!! Always rely on the Germans to take a practical position. So snogging Italians is off my revised bucket list along with my annual visit to "Helga" but my immediate problem is how do I purchase toilet rolls without running the vitriolic diatribe of my fellow shoppers?

There seem to be plenty of people ****ting themselves so I guess this is why we have a run on bog roll. Not quite sure what they expect it to do! Quite amazing..

[SirWilliam]

There seem to be plenty of people ****ting themselves so I guess this is why we have a run on bog roll. Not quite sure what they expect it to do! Quite amazing..

Maybe there is something the health authority is keeping from us? We demand to be told that having covid-19 will lead to acute and prolonged diarrhoea along with an irresistibly appetite for pot noodles. God I hate secretive governments.

[SirWilliam]

Called at Sainsbury's earlier and not a toilet roll in sight, even the biscuit shelves had taken a pasting. What the h**l is wrong with people? As the old adage goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", well ignorance is effing lethal.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Called at Sainsbury's earlier and not a toilet roll in sight, even the biscuit shelves had taken a pasting. What the h**l is wrong with people? As the old adage goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", well ignorance is effing lethal.

Wait till they close the schools...🙄 Easter holiday coming up...coincide with that?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Called at Sainsbury's earlier and not a toilet roll in sight, even the biscuit shelves had taken a pasting. What the h**l is wrong with people? As the old adage goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", well ignorance is effing lethal.

12000 cases in Italy. 800 deaths. So much for the 1%...gonna mutate further.. #pandemic

[je suis Charlie]

And bang, just like that, my trip to Scottsdale gets cancelled. Thanks Don.

[SirWilliam]

And bang, just like that, my trip to Scottsdale gets cancelled. Thanks Don.

Shame these virus chappies aren't a little more discerning about their host. One or two "clowns" I can think of who are worthy candidates.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Shame these virus chappies aren't a little more discerning about their host. One or two "clowns" I can think of who are worthy candidates.

Went to do a little Cheltenham bet today and some bloke in the bookies was literally coughing himself to death... I literally scarpered. What's wrong with these idiots?🙄

[SirWilliam]

Went to do a little Cheltenham bet today and some bloke in the bookies was literally coughing himself to death... I literally scarpered. What's wrong with these idiots?🙄

Present virus apart anyone who has a heavy cold or flue symptoms would be acting irresponsibly by spreading it in the wider population anyway. It is not as though one is committed to venturing out in this day and age when everything can be done via a phone. Personal hygiene is the key to control, but though they wheel out viral "experts" with impunity who tell you to wash your hands after being in contact with the outside world, I have yet to hear one empathise the need to wash before venturing out.
Mind you, apparently by having a house full of toilet rolls, this fellow can can be "persuaded" to visit one's neighbour instead. Bit like reading the bible four times a day to prevent the black death in the 14th century.

[je suis Charlie]

Now I'm fed up. Bloody 'Murica.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Now I'm fed up. Bloody 'Murica.

So am I... so u can fly from the UK but not Schengen? Guess what's going to happen. Shed loads of infected EU citizens arriving in transit at Heathrow. Yay!

[SirWilliam]

So am I... so u can fly from the UK but not Schengen? Guess what's going to happen. Shed loads of infected EU citizens arriving in transit at Heathrow. Yay!

Not hearing much from the "open border" brigade at the moment. See the Irish republic has closed down but Ulster remains on a par with UK mainland, be interesting to see which returns to "normal" earliest.

On a plus, toilet rolls seem to be returning to shelves.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Not hearing much from the "open border" brigade at the moment. See the Irish republic has closed down but Ulster remains on a par with UK mainland, be interesting to see which returns to "normal" earliest.

On a plus, toilet rolls seem to be returning to shelves.

Our response appears to be akin to that of the Monty Python Black Knight skit... it's only a flesh wound!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Not hearing much from the "open border" brigade at the moment. See the Irish republic has closed down but Ulster remains on a par with UK mainland, be interesting to see which returns to "normal" earliest.

On a plus, toilet rolls seem to be returning to shelves.

Also on the plus side in 9 or 10 months time the NHS is going to be needing a **** of a lot more delivery rooms. No sport. Lockdowns. Baby boom. Will these babies be called Corona's rather than Boomers??🤣

[SirWilliam]

Also on the plus side in 9 or 10 months time the NHS is going to be needing a **** of a lot more delivery rooms. No sport. Lockdowns. Baby boom. Will these babies be called Corona's rather than Boomers??🤣

No hand shaking, exaggerated kissing or the like in public, but behind closed doors the bunnies are gonna play. Now the BBC do not have to fork out for match of the day can I have my free licence concession back?

[je suis Charlie]

No hand shaking, exaggerated kissing or the like in public, but behind closed doors the bunnies are gonna play. Now the BBC do not have to fork out for match of the day can I have my free licence concession back?

On the plus side, motorways are freaking empty!

[je suis Charlie]

https://mobile.twitter.com/thejuicemedia/st...667841655541760

[SirWilliam]

https://mobile.twitter.com/thejuicemedia/st...667841655541760

We need serious press releases such as this to ensure the public is fully informed so as to avoid civil unrest due to misinformation. Next step is to prevent the over 70's venturing out. This of course means that those of us in this category will perish from malnutrition but that is a different set of statistics. Least we can laugh about it. ...........At the moment.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

We need serious press releases such as this to ensure the public is fully informed so as to avoid civil unrest due to misinformation. Next step is to prevent the over 70's venturing out. This of course means that those of us in this category will perish from malnutrition but that is a different set of statistics. Least we can laugh about it. ...........At the moment.

It's all part of the plan. A new generation of babies and cull the old.
Save a ton on pensions and a whole new generation of British fruit pickers...

[SirWilliam]

It's all part of the plan. A new generation of babies and cull the old.
Save a ton on pensions and a whole new generation of British fruit pickers...

Just watching the news with footage of long queues of shoppers rubbing shoulders with their fellow man. Now assuming that one of those has contracted the virus then all those who are in the immediate vicinity will carry it to the next group of muppets. Then we have a distressed lady who, though at her age she should be better informed, is topping up her bird feeder with bare hands while expressing concern over her position even though she is at more risk from an avian disease such as Chlamydiosis or Salmonella.

Anyway HM government will take care of us......Providing we, (you), are under 69.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Just watching the news with footage of long queues of shoppers rubbing shoulders with their fellow man. Now assuming that one of those has contracted the virus then all those who are in the immediate vicinity will carry it to the next group of muppets. Then we have a distressed lady who, though at her age she should be better informed, is topping up her bird feeder with bare hands while expressing concern over her position even though she is at more risk from an avian disease such as Chlamydiosis or Salmonella.

Anyway HM government will take care of us......Providing we, (you), are under 69.

You forget the bit where you get it before the NHS crashes and burns...cos this is where we will be in 2 weeks. Though all the people blaming the government are living in cloud cuckoo land. If Labour had been in charge of the NHS for the last 10 years we'd still be in the ****. Pandemics are rare and you cant be on standby for them.

[SirWilliam]

You forget the bit where you get it before the NHS crashes and burns...cos this is where we will be in 2 weeks. Though all the people blaming the government are living in cloud cuckoo land. If Labour had been in charge of the NHS for the last 10 years we'd still be in the ****. Pandemics are rare and you cant be on standby for them.

In the immortal words of Private Frazer "We're Doomed"

[TallDarkAndHands...]

In the immortal words of Private Frazer "We're Doomed"

Well 6 percent are and another 14 percent are gonna get very ill.
Still lots of folk will still think it's just the "flu".
Good luck with that.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

In the immortal words of Private Frazer "We're Doomed"

Worth a read..

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-...-point-11958542

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Just out of interest, what size tinfoil hat do you take?

My tinfoil hat was well tuned....

[James_Trinder]

I've been asked to work from home from today onwards. The main thing that I am going to miss is the banter and general cameraderie in the office. Obviously I don't remember wartime but I would imagine that this is what it was like.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I've been asked to work from home from today onwards. The main thing that I am going to miss is the banter and general cameraderie in the office. Obviously I don't remember wartime but I would imagine that this is what it was like.

Yep. Sitting at home with Netflix and a plethora of other entertainment. With home delivery from the supermarkets...just like the war..🤣

[SirWilliam]

I've been asked to work from home from today onwards. The main thing that I am going to miss is the banter and general cameraderie in the office. Obviously I don't remember wartime but I would imagine that this is what it was like.

Bit of difference between what is ostensibly a particularly nasty influenza and the might of the luftwaffe trying to bomb you out of existence. Lot of people who do not understand the workings of a virus are causing panic which is not at all helpful.
Best thing to do if you are reasonably fit is to carry on as normal and if you do catch it it will mean a few days in bed but at least you will have immunity if it returns next winter.
Incidentally one of the side effects of air raids was the increase in crime as houses were left empty and even if the the bomb missed it when the occupants returned home they could find their possessions gone.........And no welfare state to assist.

[James_Trinder]

Yep. Sitting at home with Netflix and a plethora of other entertainment. With home delivery from the supermarkets...just like the war..🤣

I don't have Netflix and the supermarkets don't have any delivery slots for the next few weeks but I take your point. I was more referring to the pull together mentality, the Blitz like spirit and the curtailment of individual freedoms for the greater collective good.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I don't have Netflix and the supermarkets don't have any delivery slots for the next few weeks but I take your point. I was more referring to the pull together mentality, the Blitz like spirit and the curtailment of individual freedoms for the greater collective good.

I was only joking.. as usual. And get where you are coming from. I have been taken aback a bit by the world response. I'm not quite sure that if only 1% were going to die we would have seen such a huge effort. My guess is they know something we don't.

[spartacus]

I have been taken aback a bit by the world response. I'm not quite sure that if only 1% were going to die we would have seen such a huge effort. My guess is they know something we don't.

.......I'm with you there.... ... and it's not tinfoil hattery time.

There's an undercurrent I'm not getting my head around. I really don't get the absolute enormous amounts of national reserves and resources that are being committed to tackling this if it really is a case of "Children don't get it, the healthy may get it but it'll pass in a few days and carry on. Even the fit elderly can contract it without keeling over popping their clogs." The global commitment is astounding. Is the pandemic modelling they're doing showing that there's a second, third or fourth tranche to this virus that will be even worse than the last? If we knew the truth then the panic at the bog roll shelf will be nothing to what might take it's place?

Life as we know it is going to take a very nasty turn over the next months, what with all the self-isolation requests which are going to see businesses big and small fold because of enforced closures and lack of footfall. There's more to this than meets the eye. If it really is the sort of Millennium Bug equivalent which was a lot of expenditure for an Apocalypse that fizzled out like a wet firework as the New Year bells struck then it has already screwed people's lives up.

It's troubling. ..Not that I really want to know if the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are just sorting out their riding gear and about to jump up into the saddle either....

[SirWilliam]

I was only joking.. as usual. And get where you are coming from. I have been taken aback a bit by the world response. I'm not quite sure that if only 1% were going to die we would have seen such a huge effort. My guess is they know something we don't.

1% is nothing, 75 million is an eye watering unacceptable number. All about the wording. I think the average annual mortality is about the same so it could be said that twice as many people will die at the moment.
Not sure what balm pot advised the government to close the schools but the idea of millions of kids running free and carrying the virus to all and sundry is more worrying in that the outbreak graph will peak far more acutely leading to complete social breakdown.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

1% is nothing, 75 million is an eye watering unacceptable number. All about the wording. I think the average annual mortality is about the same so it could be said that twice as many people will die at the moment.
Not sure what balm pot advised the government to close the schools but the idea of millions of kids running free and carrying the virus to all and sundry is more worrying in that the outbreak graph will peak far more acutely leading to complete social breakdown.

And I have been timing my runs to the shop (I go only when I actually need something) to when the kids are in school. Are they going to be kept in by stressed overworked parents? I doubt it.. bloody nightmare.

[Turin Machine]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/polit...l-a9409671.html

[spartacus]

No new domestic cases in China yesterday. None. ...in the whole of China. Presumably they're still eating bats and exotic wildlife and things that spawn out in the rural peasant heartlands, but no new cases. Has this all been a ruse by China to set a wave of panic around the world by releasing a relatively mild biological agent to create a financial collapse of the West that they can then buy up...

Where's that Bacofoil?

[James_Trinder]

No new domestic cases in China yesterday. None. ...in the whole of China.

According to whom? Having worked on official Chinese crop statistics in the past I can tell you that their numbers are debatable in that county level areas do not sum to the area of the province containing those counties and things of that nature. If the WHO are certifying these figures then they might be considered a bit more believable but even then they will still rely heavily on accurate local reporting and proper testing having taken place.

[SirWilliam]

According to whom? Having worked on official Chinese crop statistics in the past I can tell you that their numbers are debatable in that county level areas do not sum to the area of the province containing those counties and things of that nature. If the WHO are certifying these figures then they might be considered a bit more believable but even then they will still rely heavily on accurate local reporting and proper testing having taken place.

Difficult to get accurate figures from a lot of the world and to that end we may be on the brink of extinction or it will fizzle out by the summer. Even our statistics are at best hazy as a lot of those showing symptoms may not actually have covid 19 but seasonal flu and some may be carrying it without even realising. I still maintain that if UK mortality can be kept under 10,000 then all the panic has been uncalled for and has actually contributed to the problem by overloading the system. Just been to tesco along the london road and I was more at risk from irate drivers than possible carriers. Though those queuing at the tills do not seem to grasp the "6 ft" rule.

[SirWilliam]

No new domestic cases in China yesterday. None. ...in the whole of China. Presumably they're still eating bats and exotic wildlife and things that spawn out in the rural peasant heartlands, but no new cases. Has this all been a ruse by China to set a wave of panic around the world by releasing a relatively mild biological agent to create a financial collapse of the West that they can then buy up...

Where's that Bacofoil?

Very good point, it is man's singular lack of hygiene in basic food preparation that has caused this and you can put you final pay packet that this will continue. If nothing else it has highlighted that we as a species are mortal and one day a virus will wipe us out.......But not this one, hopefully

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Very good point, it is man's singular lack of hygiene in basic food preparation that has caused this and you can put you final pay packet that this will continue. If nothing else it has highlighted that we as a species are mortal and one day a virus will wipe us out.......But not this one, hopefully

We both have been saying it...mother nature will think we are a bit of a pain and get rid.

[SirWilliam]

We both have been saying it...mother nature will think we are a bit of a pain and get rid.

Bit slow isn't she? Man has systematically raped her since Australopithecus thought " that's a cute name". Am I the only one who is fed up to the back teeth with tv coverage of the whole thing? Day in day out we are bombarded with either bumbling Boris or whinging vox poppers complaining about the government not doing anything and convinced it is up to said government to save them from certain death. The "nanny" state mentality of the last 40 years has a lot to answer for.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Bit slow isn't she? Man has systematically raped her since Australopithecus thought " that's a cute name". Am I the only one who is fed up to the back teeth with tv coverage of the whole thing? Day in day out we are bombarded with either bumbling Boris or whinging vox poppers complaining about the government not doing anything and convinced it is up to said government to save them from certain death. The "nanny" state mentality of the last 40 years has a lot to answer for.

This sums it up. Selfish nasty society we live in these days. Something has to be done. Personally I hope the food these sicko's are hoarding go''s off, gets botulism or salmonella and they end up in hospital. Tossers.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/...706661938946048

[SirWilliam]

This sums it up. Selfish nasty society we live in these days. Something has to be done. Personally I hope the food these sicko's are hoarding go''s off, gets botulism or salmonella and they end up in hospital. Tossers.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/...706661938946048

Shape of things to come. Imagine what it would be like if the threat was real. The powers that be should have foreseen this, remember what it is like at xmas when the shops close for one whole day, but they seem powerless to do anything other than appeal to their better nature. Might as well take on a polar bear with a toffee hammer. If their mountain of food goes off they will just go back to the shop and empty it again. To be honest they should issue ration cards which would solve the problem before anarchy breaks out.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Shape of things to come. Imagine what it would be like if the threat was real. The powers that be should have foreseen this, remember what it is like at xmas when the shops close for one whole day, but they seem powerless to do anything other than appeal to their better nature. Might as well take on a polar bear with a toffee hammer. If their mountain of food goes off they will just go back to the shop and empty it again. To be honest they should issue ration cards which would solve the problem before anarchy breaks out.

I'm gonna start calling people out if I see hoarders with multiple trolleys. Hoard shame them loudly. Mind you..they'll probably spit at me given the mentality of these idiots.

[SirWilliam]

I'm gonna start calling people out if I see hoarders with multiple trolleys. Hoard shame them loudly. Mind you..they'll probably spit at me given the mentality of these idiots.

If you only get spat at I would consider you have got off lightly. I see this getting a lot worse before it gets better and only a matter of time before violence erupts. Tin hat time old chap.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

If you only get spat at I would consider you have got off lightly. I see this getting a lot worse before it gets better and only a matter of time before violence erupts. Tin hat time old chap.

Already started...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/stat...616049462124544

[SirWilliam]

Already started...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/stat...616049462124544

Quod est demonstrandum as they say in posh circles. I have fired off a couple of emails to those who can bring pressure in order to get the government to take the situation by the scruff of the neck but they seem very reluctant. Guess it's just down to keeping a low profile and not eating for the next 3 months.
On a plus side no one is discussing post brexit.

[spartacus]

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[spartacus]

On a plus side no one is discussing post brexit.

However you just KNOW that the December 31 2020 date is going to be pushed back.



[Edit] ]Well, that DATE won't change but that's when the transition period is meant to end....

And 1st May is when the EU is meant to have its negotiating mandate in place (following agreement at the February 25 Council of the EU). That's going to change as well...

[SirWilliam]

See the government advice to the public not to panic buy has not reached the ears of Sainsbury's clientele. No toilet paper, pasta,rice,biscuits,cooking sauce,tea,coffee,bottled water, and that was just those lines that one normally buys over the course of time.
Waste of time going out, but staying at home is the only effing stupid advice that they seem capable of giving.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

See the government advice to the public not to panic buy has not reached the ears of Sainsbury's clientele. No toilet paper, pasta,rice,biscuits,cooking sauce,tea,coffee,bottled water, and that was just those lines that one normally buys over the course of time.
Waste of time going out, but staying at home is the only effing stupid advice that they seem capable of giving.

They need to take away the trolleys. Just leave baskets. That will stop the fookers...they are actually increasing everyone elses risk as well as you have to go to multiple stores.

[SirWilliam]

They need to take away the trolleys. Just leave baskets. That will stop the fookers...they are actually increasing everyone elses risk as well as you have to go to multiple stores.

My thoughts exactly. If I go into the shop for a packet of X and is not in stock then I have to journey to another retailer and another until I actually source it. Now I may have come into contact with maybe a hundred people as opposed to 20 if it was on the initial shelf. They are just not thinking this problem out which is more worrying than the possibility of catching the virus because if they can't plan this how would they manage a real invasion?
The slight glimmer of relief is the thought that it could have been clown Corbyn running things.