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post Dec 29 2018, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 29 2018, 02:39 PM) *
Refugees?

So why do they end up in small boats trying to sneak in illegally?

Is there an internationally accepted mode of transport for refugees? What were the Vietnamese Boat People? More idiotic hate filled nonsense.
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post Dec 29 2018, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 29 2018, 04:08 PM) *
I would prefer you said "ongoing conflict" caused by idealists from all sides than lay the blame squarely on the West. I agree it was folly to go into Iraq and Afghanistan, but if we hadn't they would still be killing each other and blowing up the odd european shopping centre just for the h**l of it. Two thousand years of aggression will not come to an end on the say of some US president nor will the Arab world be united and live in harmony. Most of the migrants are from North Africa where, to the best of my knowledge, we are not engaged in any form, so we either have an open door policy and allow unfettered access or say sorry we are full go elsewhere.

That’s full of holes.

The source really of the conflict is Israel and US support of Israel. It’s not a 2,000 year old conflict.

As for Arabs killing each other. So what? Let them do as they please. In fact arguably they were doing a pretty good job of keeping the lid on things until we invaded.

The reports I’ve seen suggest the boat people are Syrian, Afghanis and Iranians. Not North Africans.
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post Dec 29 2018, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 29 2018, 05:06 PM) *
That’s full of holes.

The source really of the conflict is Israel and US support of Israel. It’s not a 2,000 year old conflict.

As for Arabs killing each other. So what? Let them do as they please. In fact arguably they were doing a pretty good job of keeping the lid on things until we invaded.

The reports I’ve seen suggest the boat people are Syrian, Afghanis and Iranians. Not North Africans.

What about all the Eritreans? Sudanese? Algerians? Libyans? Tunisians? Go to the channel ports, look at them, they're not Arabs, not by a long chalk! But, and here's the important bit, let's not let facts faze your limp wristed liberal take on things.
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post Dec 29 2018, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 29 2018, 04:34 PM) *
Is there an internationally accepted mode of transport for refugees? What were the Vietnamese Boat People? More idiotic hate filled nonsense.



As the BBC has reported. They have been secretly filming the people traffickers in action, charging between £3000 and £4000 per person.

If you recall, Australia dealt with the influx all those decades ago.


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post Dec 29 2018, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 29 2018, 04:34 PM) *
Is there an internationally accepted mode of transport for refugees? What were the Vietnamese Boat People? More idiotic hate filled nonsense.



OH, and the Vietnamese were genuine refugees from a communist regime. They didn't bring rape, killing and no-go zones either.
You ARE a communist aren't you?


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post Dec 29 2018, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 29 2018, 06:18 PM) *
OH, and the Vietnamese were genuine refugees from a communist regime. They didn't bring rape, killing and no-go zones either.
You ARE a communist aren't you?

He just wants to feel good about himself, but expect someone else to house them. Newres should be combing Dover seeking out wealthy Iranian illegals to house in chez Newres🤣
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post Dec 29 2018, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 29 2018, 06:18 PM) *
OH, and the Vietnamese were genuine refugees from a communist regime. They didn't bring rape, killing and no-go zones either.
You ARE a communist aren't you?

No go zones? Donald Trump tell you that?

Interestingly the US were involved in Vietnam too.

More right wing hate filled and thick nonsense.
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post Dec 29 2018, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 29 2018, 06:32 PM) *
He just wants to feel good about himself, but expect someone else to house them. Newres should be combing Dover seeking out wealthy Iranian illegals to house in chez Newres🤣

I expect us to take care of genuine refugees. I contribute through taxes.
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post Dec 29 2018, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 29 2018, 07:16 PM) *
I expect us to take care of genuine refugees. I contribute through taxes.

Aww, bless. Newres, half loon, half liberal. How sweet.
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post Dec 29 2018, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 29 2018, 07:16 PM) *
I expect us to take care of genuine refugees. I contribute through taxes.


Can you explain to me your definition of someone who is not a refugee? Enlighten me...
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post Dec 30 2018, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 29 2018, 07:16 PM) *
I expect us to take care of genuine refugees. I contribute through taxes.



You need to listen to Lucy Moreton son.

“We’ve been warning government for weeks this is a problem which is escalating & it’s not going to go away. People smugglers are openly touting in Calais”

I say take the traffickers out by any means necessary.


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post Dec 30 2018, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 30 2018, 12:34 AM) *
You need to listen to Lucy Moreton son.

“We’ve been warning government for weeks this is a problem which is escalating & it’s not going to go away. People smugglers are openly touting in Calais”

I say take the traffickers out by any means necessary.

They are scum. I agree.
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post Dec 30 2018, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 29 2018, 10:33 PM) *
Can you explain to me your definition of someone who is not a refugee? Enlighten me...

Someone who has not left home to escape war or political violence.
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post Dec 30 2018, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 30 2018, 07:31 AM) *
Someone who has not left home to escape war or political violence.

So an economic migrant is a refugee to you. 🤔
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post Dec 30 2018, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 30 2018, 12:56 PM) *
So an economic migrant is a refugee to you. 🤔

No. Did you confuse yourself with the **** about face way you phrased the question?
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post Dec 30 2018, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 29 2018, 04:08 PM) *
I would prefer you said "ongoing conflict" caused by idealists from all sides than lay the blame squarely on the West. I agree it was folly to go into Iraq and Afghanistan, but if we hadn't they would still be killing each other and blowing up the odd european shopping centre just for the h**l of it. Two thousand years of aggression will not come to an end on the say of some US president nor will the Arab world be united and live in harmony. Most of the migrants are from North Africa where, to the best of my knowledge, we are not engaged in any form, so we either have an open door policy and allow unfettered access or say sorry we are full go elsewhere.


Take your uranium, oil, diamonds, copper and anything else we want elsewhere.
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post Dec 30 2018, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Dec 30 2018, 07:11 PM) *
Take your uranium, oil, diamonds, copper and anything else we want elsewhere.


The irony being that those who seek a life in europe do not see a penny of their homeland's natural assets. If it was shared around a little more evenly then this problem would not exist.


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post Dec 30 2018, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 30 2018, 07:24 PM) *
The irony being that those who seek a life in europe do not see a penny of their homeland's natural assets. If it was shared around a little more evenly then this problem would not exist.

Yes, yes it would. because the other governments simply spend all the assets on bigger armies, more guns and gold plated Rolls Royces to run around in. Very little goes to the general population.
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post Dec 30 2018, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 30 2018, 01:52 PM) *
No. Did you confuse yourself with the **** about face way you phrased the question?

What a potato. rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 30 2018, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 30 2018, 08:53 PM) *
What a potato. rolleyes.gif

Can't even be bothered to answer. He is being obtuse as he can't. It's what he does.
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