Merry xmas and peace and goodwill to all god's creatures. Options

[SirWilliam]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-46682976

Is there really any point in saving this planet when it is inhabited by cretins like this?

[SirWilliam]

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to ship them across the channel on a ferry; process their credentials and return those who don't meet the criteria on the next crossing?
On a subjective matter, what has all this to do with japanese whaling?

[newres]

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to ship them across the channel on a ferry; process their credentials and return those who don't meet the criteria on the next crossing?
On a subjective matter, what has all this to do with japanese whaling?

Had it escaped your notice that this site has been taken over by extreme right wingers? NWN ought to pull the plug in my opinion.

[x2lls]

Had it escaped your notice that this site has been taken over by extreme right wingers? NWN ought to pull the plug in my opinion.

Extreme right wingers? The comedy continues eh?
BTW, they are NOT migrants, they are illegal aliens attempting to buck the system, so should be treated as such.

[newres]

Extreme right wingers? The comedy continues eh?
BTW, they are NOT migrants, they are illegal aliens attempting to buck the system, so should be treated as such.

They are neither. They are refugees from a war caused by western governments. You’re just too indoctrinated by right wing media to see it.

[x2lls]

They are neither. They are refugees from a war caused by western governments. You’re just too indoctrinated by right wing media to see it.

Refugees?

So why do they end up in small boats trying to sneak in illegally?

[newres]

Refugees?

So why do they end up in small boats trying to sneak in illegally?

Is there an internationally accepted mode of transport for refugees? What were the Vietnamese Boat People? More idiotic hate filled nonsense.

[x2lls]

Is there an internationally accepted mode of transport for refugees? What were the Vietnamese Boat People? More idiotic hate filled nonsense.

OH, and the Vietnamese were genuine refugees from a communist regime. They didn't bring rape, killing and no-go zones either.
You ARE a communist aren't you?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

OH, and the Vietnamese were genuine refugees from a communist regime. They didn't bring rape, killing and no-go zones either.
You ARE a communist aren't you?

He just wants to feel good about himself, but expect someone else to house them. Newres should be combing Dover seeking out wealthy Iranian illegals to house in chez Newres🤣

[newres]

He just wants to feel good about himself, but expect someone else to house them. Newres should be combing Dover seeking out wealthy Iranian illegals to house in chez Newres🤣

I expect us to take care of genuine refugees. I contribute through taxes.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I expect us to take care of genuine refugees. I contribute through taxes.

Can you explain to me your definition of someone who is not a refugee? Enlighten me...

[newres]

Can you explain to me your definition of someone who is not a refugee? Enlighten me...

Someone who has not left home to escape war or political violence.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Someone who has not left home to escape war or political violence.

So an economic migrant is a refugee to you. 🤔

[newres]

So an economic migrant is a refugee to you. 🤔

No. Did you confuse yourself with the **** about face way you phrased the question?

[je suis Charlie]

No. Did you confuse yourself with the **** about face way you phrased the question?

What a potato.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

What a potato.

Can't even be bothered to answer. He is being obtuse as he can't. It's what he does.

[Andy Capp]

Can't even be bothered to answer. He is being obtuse as he can't. It's what he does.

He did answer it correctly:

Can you explain to me your definition of someone who is not a refugee? Enlighten me...

Someone who has not left home to escape war or political violence.

A refugee is someone who seeks shelter after fleeing a war torn country.

Therefore, someone who is not a refugee is someone who has not fleed a war torn country.

Were you meant to have asked: give me an example of a migrant who is not a refugee?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

He did answer it correctly:





A refugee is someone who seeks shelter after fleeing a war torn country.

Therefore, someone who is not a refugee is someone who has not fleed a war torn country.

Were you meant to have asked: give me an example of a migrant who is not a refugee?

The issue is newres seems to THINK everyone is a refugee if they don't live in a prosperous country. I don't. Some of these Iranians are paying 20k just to cross. 5 adults at 4k a pop. They are not short of a few Bob and they are "fleeing" the 6th biggest economy in the world. France. Doesn't quite add up to a refugee in my view.

[newres]

The issue is newres seems to THINK everyone is a refugee if they don't live in a prosperous country. I don't. Some of these Iranians are paying 20k just to cross. 5 adults at 4k a pop. They are not short of a few Bob and they are "fleeing" the 6th biggest economy in the world. France. Doesn't quite add up to a refugee in my view.

My answer totally contradicts this though. If you focussed on facts rather than what you believe you’d be less angry.

Wealthy people can be refugees by the way. Which double contradicts your point that they are after our welfare system. Think of the wealthy Jews fleeing Nazism.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

My answer totally contradicts this though. If you focussed on facts rather than what you believe you’d be less angry.

Wealthy people can be refugees by the way. Which double contradicts your point that they are after our welfare system. Think of the wealthy Jews fleeing Nazism.

Why is an opinion you disagree with "angry"? I guess all the Russian billionaires who have fallen out with Putin are also "refugees" then???

[newres]

Why is an opinion you disagree with "angry"? I guess all the Russian billionaires who have fallen out with Putin are also "refugees" then???

All gammons are angry. Goes with the territory.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

All gammons are angry. Goes with the territory.

That's rubbish. It's a bit like saying all liberals are gay. Just stereotypical nonsense. And you.know it.

[newres]

That's rubbish. It's a bit like saying all liberals are gay. Just stereotypical nonsense. And you.know it.

No. Gammons are red faced and angry. That’s why they are gammons. Tautological. Yes?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

No. Gammons are red faced and angry. That’s why they are gammons. Tautological. Yes?

Do you think all brexiteers are "Gammons"?

[newres]

Do you think all brexiteers are "Gammons"?

All gammons are Brexiteers, but not all Brexiteers are gammons.

[newres]

All gammons are Brexiteers, but not all Brexiteers are gammons.

I take that back. All Brexiteers are Gammons, but not all that voted Brexit are Brexiteers. Many have changed their minds.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I take that back. All Brexiteers are Gammons, but not all that voted Brexit are Brexiteers. Many have changed their minds.

And many remainers are now brexiteers as they take offence at the #fbpe crowd and sneering liberal elitists like this.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mps-must...wrong-fq2tspd7v

[newres]

And many remainers are now brexiteers as they take offence at the #fbpe crowd and sneering liberal elitists like this.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mps-must...wrong-fq2tspd7v

Well they were wrong. However MPs can now ask us just to make sure we're sure. May's deal or remain. I'm content now to accept either, though I think it's better to remain. A hard Brexit with no deal is off the table.

[Andy Capp]

Well they were wrong. However MPs can now ask us just to make sure we're sure. May's deal or remain. I'm content now to accept either, though I think it's better to remain. A hard Brexit with no deal is off the table.

I disagree, if we don’t brexit properly, then the EU sceptics will remain as a political cancer.

[newres]

I disagree, if we don’t brexit properly, then the EU sceptics will remain as a political cancer.

What do you disagree with?

[Andy Capp]

What do you disagree with?

I don’t believe May’s deal is sufficient to cut the cancer out.

[newres]

I don’t believe May’s deal is sufficient to cut the cancer out.

I think your choice of the word “cancer” amply demonstrates why gammon is appropriate.

[Andy Capp]

I think your choice of the word “cancer” amply demonstrates why gammon is appropriate.

Gammon is OK, but I see gammons on both sides of the debate. I feel for the sake of democracy we have to see it through.

[newres]

Gammon is OK, but I see gammons on both sides of the debate. I feel for the sake of democracy we have to see it through.

I don’t though. The angry brigade are definitely on the right and threatening violence if “democracy” isn’t honoured as if giving people a final say isn’t democracy.

The people voted to leave the EU. TM’s deal delivers exactly that.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I don’t though. The angry brigade are definitely on the right and threatening violence if “democracy” isn’t honoured as if giving people a final say isn’t democracy.

The people voted to leave the EU. TM’s deal delivers exactly that.

I don't mind a final say, as long as we have another final say shortly after if I dont like the result.

[je suis Charlie]

I don't mind a final say, as long as we have another final say shortly after if I dont like the result.

Best out of five, I mean why not??

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Best out of five, I mean why not??

Why stop there? We could have a daily vote via the red button on sattelite.🤣

[SirWilliam]

Why stop there? We could have a daily vote via the red button on sattelite.🤣

Premium rate phone voting is the answer. Sensible people have better things to spend their money on, which just leaves the "celeb" types and 15 year old school girls to decide our future. Worth a try say I.