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Andy Capp
post Sep 22 2015, 09:53 AM
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In this alleged free market economy, people should be going to gaol.

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post Sep 22 2015, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 22 2015, 05:36 PM) *
Why? Is your VW not the car it was last week? The fact is that the US regulatory body set VW a test, which they passed, which every manufacturer passed. Its merely VW who have been held up as the whipping boy, just wait to see who else gets caught up in this. Its like an not, just cos its OK now doesn't mean it's OK when it drives down the road.

At first glance though (I'm not that bothered as I don't own any VW shares) it seems quite a wheeze to knowingly adjust software so that it defeats or blocks out any negative results in order to promote the brand and put one over the opposition. A criminal wheeze, but clever all the same.....
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- Andy Capp   First bankers, now cars makers   Sep 22 2015, 09:53 AM
- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 22 2015, 10:53 AM)...   Sep 22 2015, 10:58 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 22 2015, 11...   Sep 22 2015, 04:15 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 22 2015, 05:15 PM)...   Sep 22 2015, 04:36 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 22 2015, 05...   Sep 22 2015, 05:34 PM
||- - motormad   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 22 2015, 05...   Sep 23 2015, 09:05 AM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 23 2015, 10:05 AM) ...   Sep 23 2015, 10:27 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 22 2015, 05:15 PM)...   Sep 22 2015, 09:16 PM
- - Biker1   Annoying though that some VW owners have been gett...   Sep 22 2015, 11:06 AM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 22 2015, 12:06 PM) An...   Sep 22 2015, 11:28 AM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 22 2015, 12:06 PM) An...   Sep 22 2015, 09:11 PM
- - motormad   I love how my diesel spits out red hot soot at hig...   Sep 22 2015, 11:45 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 22 2015, 12:45 PM) ...   Sep 22 2015, 04:04 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 22 2015, 05:04 P...   Sep 22 2015, 04:15 PM
- - je suis Charlie   And the first head falls into the basket as the he...   Sep 22 2015, 12:14 PM
- - CrackerJack   QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 22 2015, 10:11 PM) R...   Sep 22 2015, 09:56 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (CrackerJack @ Sep 22 2015, 10:56 P...   Sep 23 2015, 07:22 AM
- - CrackerJack   The game here is about NOx which is one of the mai...   Sep 23 2015, 05:22 AM
- - motormad   further to that Vehicle A = 2012 Jetta SportWag...   Sep 23 2015, 10:03 AM
- - Berkshirelad   But it's nothing new. In the '70s when Ca...   Sep 23 2015, 10:59 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 23 2015, 11:59 ...   Sep 23 2015, 12:20 PM
||- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 23 2015, 01:20 PM)...   Sep 23 2015, 02:01 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 23 2015, 03:01 ...   Sep 23 2015, 05:32 PM
|- - Andy Capp   DP error.   Sep 23 2015, 12:20 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 23 2015, 11:59 ...   Sep 23 2015, 06:55 PM
- - Turin Machine   The biggest (practical) problem for now is misinfo...   Sep 23 2015, 11:21 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 23 2015, 12:21...   Sep 23 2015, 12:22 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 23 2015, 01:22 PM)...   Sep 23 2015, 12:55 PM
- - Turin Machine   ."If only everything in life was as reliable ...   Sep 23 2015, 11:55 AM
- - motormad   Before anyone ****** about car tax going up our ta...   Sep 23 2015, 12:43 PM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 23 2015, 01:43 PM) ...   Sep 23 2015, 12:57 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 23 2015, 01:43 PM) ...   Sep 23 2015, 07:01 PM
||- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 23 2015, 08:01 P...   Sep 24 2015, 12:33 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 23 2015, 01:43 PM) ...   Sep 23 2015, 07:07 PM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 23 2015, 08:07 P...   Sep 23 2015, 11:05 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 24 2015, 12:05 AM) ...   Sep 24 2015, 06:02 AM
|- - Rdg   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 24 2015, 07:02 A...   Sep 24 2015, 08:46 AM
- - On the edge   Frankly, the testers haven't been particularly...   Sep 23 2015, 04:21 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 23 2015, 05:21 P...   Sep 23 2015, 05:39 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 23 2015, 06:39 PM)...   Sep 23 2015, 06:01 PM
- - On the edge   Funny old life. Get an election count wrong, just...   Sep 23 2015, 06:19 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 23 2015, 07:19 P...   Sep 23 2015, 06:28 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 23 2015, 07:28 PM)...   Sep 23 2015, 09:34 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 23 2015, 10:34 P...   Sep 23 2015, 10:14 PM
- - Andy Capp   Tell me what would have happened had VW not cheate...   Sep 24 2015, 12:01 AM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 24 2015, 01:01 AM)...   Sep 24 2015, 09:13 AM
- - Andy Capp   "I see this as nothing different than a car h...   Sep 24 2015, 08:52 AM
- - Rdg   I don't see it as a matter of integrity - i be...   Sep 24 2015, 09:55 AM
- - motormad   ^^ completely agree with you sir.   Sep 24 2015, 10:29 AM
- - Berkshirelad   As do I I don't understand the huge moral out...   Sep 24 2015, 10:48 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 10:55 AM) I don...   Sep 24 2015, 11:07 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 24 2015, 12:07 PM)...   Sep 24 2015, 06:26 PM
- - On the edge   Of course none of us would ever stoop so low. Tr...   Sep 24 2015, 01:54 PM
- - Rdg   I own a VW Diesel (well a Skoda) and it matters no...   Sep 24 2015, 02:20 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 03:20 PM) I own...   Sep 24 2015, 03:03 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 24 2015, 02:54 P...   Sep 24 2015, 03:06 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 24 2015, 04:06 PM)...   Sep 25 2015, 08:30 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 25 2015, 09:30 A...   Sep 25 2015, 09:05 AM
- - Rdg   i havent commented in the RUP debate so not guily ...   Sep 24 2015, 03:54 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) i hav...   Sep 24 2015, 05:55 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) As an...   Sep 24 2015, 06:31 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) ........   Sep 25 2015, 08:40 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 25 2015, 09:40 A...   Sep 25 2015, 09:09 AM
- - Strafin   It's like the horsemeat scandal all over agin....   Sep 24 2015, 06:26 PM
- - spartacus   I can't believe the number of class action law...   Sep 24 2015, 06:29 PM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 24 2015, 07:29 PM)...   Sep 25 2015, 09:57 AM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) i hav...   Sep 24 2015, 07:00 PM
- - je suis Charlie   SMMT issues a statement on Volkswagen emissions sc...   Sep 24 2015, 08:35 PM
- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 25 2015, 10:09 AM)...   Sep 25 2015, 09:43 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 25 2015, 10:43...   Sep 25 2015, 11:06 AM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 25 2015, 12:06 P...   Sep 25 2015, 12:01 PM
- - Rdg   Totally agree - as I said earlier, I looked at 60m...   Sep 25 2015, 10:52 AM
- - Turin Machine   And we are on top of NOx emissions, that's wha...   Sep 25 2015, 12:19 PM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 25 2015, 01:19...   Sep 25 2015, 01:42 PM
|- - motormad   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 25 2015, 01:19...   Sep 25 2015, 02:27 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 25 2015, 03:27 PM) ...   Sep 26 2015, 09:27 AM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 10:27 AM)...   Sep 26 2015, 09:55 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 26 2015, 10:55...   Sep 26 2015, 11:34 AM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 12:34 PM)...   Sep 26 2015, 05:22 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 26 2015, 06:22...   Sep 27 2015, 09:03 AM
- - je suis Charlie   I love it when people bleat on about this pollutio...   Sep 25 2015, 12:24 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 01...   Sep 25 2015, 12:44 PM
||- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 25 2015, 01:44 PM)...   Sep 25 2015, 05:57 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 25 2015, 06:57 P...   Sep 26 2015, 09:05 AM
||- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 10:05 AM)...   Sep 26 2015, 02:13 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 01...   Sep 26 2015, 07:54 AM
- - Andy Capp   So you are all expert on air pollution now. Y...   Sep 25 2015, 12:38 PM
- - je suis Charlie   Organized religion has been deceiving us and conni...   Sep 25 2015, 01:28 PM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 02...   Sep 25 2015, 01:44 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 02...   Sep 26 2015, 09:07 AM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 10:07 AM)...   Sep 26 2015, 09:57 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 26 2015, 10:57 PM) Ex...   Sep 27 2015, 01:04 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 02...   Sep 26 2015, 09:45 PM
- - Turin Machine   Anyway, thank the Lord, its all OK now. Footballs...   Sep 25 2015, 11:44 PM
- - Andy Capp   It is no wonder this world like what it is: it see...   Sep 26 2015, 08:59 AM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 09:59 AM)...   Sep 26 2015, 09:42 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 26 2015, 10...   Sep 26 2015, 09:53 AM
- - Turin Machine   He can't.   Sep 26 2015, 11:41 PM
- - Exhausted   When I buy my vehicle excise duty and if in my wis...   Sep 27 2015, 10:22 AM
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