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Andy Capp
post Sep 6 2018, 10:19 PM
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However, the argument remains intact: people who pay to use the road are resentful of those who donít.
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Biker1
post Sep 7 2018, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 6 2018, 11:19 PM) *
However, the argument remains intact: people who pay to use the road are resentful of those who don’t.

There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.
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post Sep 7 2018, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 7 2018, 07:42 AM) *
There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.

Bang on Biker!
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Andy Capp
post Sep 8 2018, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 7 2018, 07:42 AM) *
There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.

I said pay to use it. Motorists have to pay a specific charge that other users donít.
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Andy Capp
post Sep 8 2018, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 7 2018, 08:57 AM) *
Bang on Biker!

Yes he is, except he misread my post.
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post Sep 8 2018, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 8 2018, 08:10 AM) *
Yes he is, except he misread my post.

No I didn't!
Mind you, it's not difficult with some of yours AC! wink.gif
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post Sep 8 2018, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 8 2018, 08:10 AM) *
Yes he is, except he misread my post.

I dont think your post is very clear then. There is no specific charge to use any roads other than the odd bridge and the M6 expressway!
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Andy Capp
post Sep 9 2018, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 8 2018, 10:30 AM) *
I dont think your post is very clear then. There is no specific charge to use any roads other than the odd bridge and the M6 expressway!

Donít be daft both of you, a cyclist doesnít have to pay to use the road, car drivers do!!!
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Andy Capp
post Sep 9 2018, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 8 2018, 09:04 AM) *
No I didn't!
Mind you, it's not difficult with some of yours AC! wink.gif

You demonstrably did.
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post Sep 9 2018, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 9 2018, 11:00 AM) *
Donít be daft both of you, a cyclist doesnít have to pay to use the road, car drivers do!!!

Please elaborate. Because it sounds like you're wrong.
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Andy Capp
post Sep 9 2018, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 9 2018, 11:46 AM) *
Please elaborate. Because it sounds like you're wrong.

Cyclists donít have to pay VED!!!! rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 10 2018, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 9 2018, 06:16 PM) *
Cyclists don’t have to pay VED!!!! rolleyes.gif

Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.
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Andy Capp
post Sep 10 2018, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 10 2018, 08:21 AM) *
Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.

AND I SAID MOTORISTS HAVE TO PAY A CHARGE TO USE THE HIGHWAY THAT CYCLISTS DONíT!
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post Sep 10 2018, 09:40 AM
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I'm a cyclist and I pay VED
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Andy Capp
post Sep 10 2018, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 10 2018, 10:40 AM) *
I'm a cyclist and I pay VED

Good for you, but that doesnít invalidate my point.
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post Sep 10 2018, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 10 2018, 01:35 PM) *
Good for you, but that doesnít invalidate my point.



I agree with you on this one.






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post Sep 10 2018, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 10 2018, 08:21 AM) *
Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.



There is a specific payment required, aimed at any motor vehicle user and owner. It does not apply to cyclists.

THAT is AC's point.


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post Sep 10 2018, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 10 2018, 08:07 PM) *
There is a specific payment required, aimed at any motor vehicle user and owner. It does not apply to cyclists.

THAT is AC's point.


...but it goes to central funds - it is not a Road Fund and hasn't been for decades
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post Sep 10 2018, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 10 2018, 08:15 PM) *
...but it goes to central funds - it is not a Road Fund and hasn't been for decades

We know.
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post Sep 10 2018, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 10 2018, 09:29 AM) *
AND I SAID MOTORISTS HAVE TO PAY A CHARGE TO USE THE HIGHWAY THAT CYCLISTS DON’T!


No they don't, they're are not paying to use the roads, the only road that motorists pay to use are toll roads or congestion zones, none of which apply to A band motor vehicles or electric.
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