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shedboy
post Jan 20 2021, 08:38 AM
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How wonderful, covid vacines have been stopped at the racecourse so racing can go ahead. Words fail me. Trust the racecourse will pay for all the extra funerals.
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Mr Brown
post Jan 20 2021, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (shedboy @ Jan 20 2021, 08:38 AM) *
How wonderful, covid vacines have been stopped at the racecourse so racing can go ahead. Words fail me. Trust the racecourse will pay for all the extra funerals.

It’s ok, NHS knew about the need for the closures when they agreed to use the site. Indeed a planned day or so out actually helps with performance. That the vaccine takes a fair time to produce, quite far sighted of HMG to place massive orders even before the stuff had been tested. All this known and in public domain well before start up. So, quite a remarkable achievement all round.

If you really want a cause to run with, go and give the cretins who claim they can’t wear facemasks - there are NO medical reasons not to and frankly, those who claim a mental health reason probably shouldn’t be out in public anyway.
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post Jan 22 2021, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Jan 20 2021, 07:58 PM) *
It’s ok, NHS knew about the need for the closures when they agreed to use the site. Indeed a planned day or so out actually helps with performance. That the vaccine takes a fair time to produce, quite far sighted of HMG to place massive orders even before the stuff had been tested. All this known and in public domain well before start up. So, quite a remarkable achievement all round.

If you really want a cause to run with, go and give the cretins who claim they can’t wear facemasks - there are NO medical reasons not to and frankly, those who claim a mental health reason probably shouldn’t be out in public anyway.

Hear, hear.
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post Jan 22 2021, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jan 22 2021, 10:11 AM) *
Hear, hear.


The wearing of a "face muzzle" is an interesting one. Personally I consider them to be at best compliant, at worse detrimental to my health.
BUT, I wear one without question when shopping or places that I am reasonably close to others because that is a government directive. (The legal aspect is a little "off white" shall we say), and it is not for me to question, well certainly not in a public arena,
Like Mr Brown states, those who choose to make some form of protest or refuse to wear one on some spurious mental health grounds should be locked away for their own safety because they are probably not following all the other rules as well.
The fact that the death toll continues unabated points to something being intrinsically wrong,and assuming current directives are not to blame, then it is likely to be down to noncompliance by a lot of people..



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post Jan 26 2021, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 22 2021, 12:31 PM) *
The wearing of a "face muzzle" is an interesting one. Personally I consider them to be at best compliant, at worse detrimental to my health.
BUT, I wear one without question when shopping or places that I am reasonably close to others because that is a government directive. (The legal aspect is a little "off white" shall we say), and it is not for me to question, well certainly not in a public arena,
Like Mr Brown states, those who choose to make some form of protest or refuse to wear one on some spurious mental health grounds should be locked away for their own safety because they are probably not following all the other rules as well.
The fact that the death toll continues unabated points to something being intrinsically wrong,and assuming current directives are not to blame, then it is likely to be down to noncompliance by a lot of people..

I've only seen one person not wear a mask. It's not compliance that's causing it to spread, it's the rules that allow some transmission. It's a difficult balance to strike & I think the government has got many things wrong, but it's a tricky balance to make.
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post Jan 27 2021, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jan 26 2021, 10:12 AM) *
I've only seen one person not wear a mask. It's not compliance that's causing it to spread, it's the rules that allow some transmission. It's a difficult balance to strike & I think the government has got many things wrong, but it's a tricky balance to make.


The primary reason of it's spreading is that it is now endemic. The only way to prevent coming in contact with the virus is to live in a lead lined bunker.
This is why social distancing is so important with respect to the elderly, the vulnerable and the unhealthy. The rest of us could, and should, be able to manage our lives in the face of what is a bloody nasty disease. Even the pro lockdown fraternity are now looking to "herd immunity" as our salvation.
The vaccination programme is being run like a bunch of scouts organising their own jamboree because the scoutmaster has gone down the pub. The elderly are still dying like flies in the care homes, as they have done for years because society doesn't give a **** about them anyway, and the NHS is "coping" because it always does.
Meanwhile the country is split on which is the best course of action, and once again only history will clarify, but the question we really do need to address is, "Are we prepared to continue with the present policy indefinitely"?


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post Jan 27 2021, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 27 2021, 10:29 AM) *
.... once again only history will clarify....
History will certainly clarify why there is such a disparity in numbers between close European countries. Each country's equivalent to the Office of National Statistics will at some stage look back at overall death figures. Whereas UK is counting every death within 28 days of a positive test as being Covid - regardless of the fact a person dies in a car accident or of cancer or any other terminal illness there are many countries that have not used this methodology and their figures look astonishing in comparison with ours.
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post Mar 10 2021, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jan 27 2021, 03:05 PM) *
History will certainly clarify why there is such a disparity in numbers between close European countries. Each country's equivalent to the Office of National Statistics will at some stage look back at overall death figures. Whereas UK is counting every death within 28 days of a positive test as being Covid - regardless of the fact a person dies in a car accident or of cancer or any other terminal illness there are many countries that have not used this methodology and their figures look astonishing in comparison with ours.

If soneone dies in a car accident and the cause of death is trauma, then it wil not be included in the covid death numbers. It is only when covid is on the death certificate that a death is recorded as covid. The official figures are likely to be understated to the reality.
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