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Halal, why should we put up with this?, If fox hunting with dogs is outlawed, why not Halal? |
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Mar 7 2018, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 7 2018, 10:44 AM) But is it? Point us to the falsehood. Over time it is clear to me that “the Muppets total inability to distinguish a legal procedure from an illegal mutilation” is untrue; a lie.
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Mar 7 2018, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 7 2018, 10:46 AM) And your point is? Already said. Just a statement of fact.
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Mar 7 2018, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 7 2018, 12:09 PM) That come across as almost, racist? Nope.
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Mar 7 2018, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 7 2018, 12:36 PM) Over time it is clear to me that “the Muppets total inability to distinguish a legal procedure from an illegal mutilation” is untrue; a lie. It looks like opinion to me, opinion backed by his posts c'nest Pas?
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Mar 7 2018, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 7 2018, 12:39 PM) Nope. Maybe now, after a quick edit took place. (Reminder to self, take screenshots)
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Mar 7 2018, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 7 2018, 12:45 PM) Maybe now, after a quick edit took place. (Reminder to self, take screenshots) I have edited nothing. Perhaps racism is in the eye of the beholder?
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Mar 9 2018, 11:50 AM
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Back to topic. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43328066Once again the political elite showing it's complete inability to evaluate the facts. We have been culling the hapless badger for years now with no decrease in the TB incidents in cattle. Bovine Tuberculosis is a zoonotic disease which means it can infect and be carried by any mammal, indeed the ministries own research indicates that 50% of ( those tested) rats carry the mycobacterium and 40% of feral cats. No one suggests we should be doing nothing but surely a cattle vaccination programme is long overdue. How are we going to address such issues as cruelty within the meat industry when the very people who can bring about change are shown to have scant regard for our wildlife?
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Mar 9 2018, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Mar 9 2018, 11:50 AM) Back to topic. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43328066Once again the political elite showing it's complete inability to evaluate the facts. We have been culling the hapless badger for years now with no decrease in the TB incidents in cattle. Bovine Tuberculosis is a zoonotic disease which means it can infect and be carried by any mammal, indeed the ministries own research indicates that 50% of ( those tested) rats carry the mycobacterium and 40% of feral cats. No one suggests we should be doing nothing but surely a cattle vaccination programme is long overdue. How are we going to address such issues as cruelty within the meat industry when the very people who can bring about change are shown to have scant regard for our wildlife? I agree to the need for a cattle vaccination programme - all we need is a vaccine. About £4m a year is being spent on its development - but there isn't one at present apart from good old BCG - which has the minor problem of infecting cattle innoculated so that they all show positive when tested for TB. This might be okay if it was 100% effective - but it isn't.
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Mar 9 2018, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 9 2018, 01:29 PM) So what do we do? Wipe out every single mammal in the UK? Or, invest more money on a vaccine? Little doubt a similar argument was put forward in the fight against polio,diphtheria etc but the research continued. I accept the point regarding the present vaccine reflecting a reaction in non infected cattle but that in itself does not justify the eradication of one element of wildlife. A lot more research is needed into how the disease is being transmitted to a "healthy" herd. To point the finger at the badger when it has already been agreed that all mammals are carriers, ( including the farmer ), is hardly a scientific approach to the problem.
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Mar 9 2018, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 9 2018, 05:00 PM) Shooting is cheap, Pleases farmers, Makes government look as it they are doing something,
And that's about it. An argument that could be levied at most things that cross a Westminster desk................MP shoot anyone?
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Mar 11 2018, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 5 2018, 10:14 AM) And killing is killing. I don't like the Halal, but the Jews use the same method and they mutilate boy's here in the UK. Where's your outrage? This is all about racism and hatred for Muslims. They dont help themselves.. This from the DAILY MIRROR https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brita...ooming-12165527Shocking. Both the abuse AND the failure of the authorities to deal with the issue for fear of being called a racist. A bit like 🔪 crime in London. Can't stop and search young black men anymore for fear of profiling. Resulting in many more young black deaths. 😞
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Mar 11 2018, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 11 2018, 04:14 PM) They dont help themselves.. This from the DAILY MIRROR https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brita...ooming-12165527Shocking. Both the abuse AND the failure of the authorities to deal with the issue for fear of being called a racist. A bit like 🔪 crime in London. Can't stop and search young black men anymore for fear of profiling. Resulting in many more young black deaths. 😞 Not true unless its from the Garderobe. Paper of choice of the left.
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Mar 11 2018, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 11 2018, 04:14 PM) A bit like 🔪 crime in London. Can't stop and search young black men anymore for fear of profiling. Resulting in many more young black deaths. 😞 Is that true?
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