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post Jun 6 2020, 05:38 PM
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Yes. They do.

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post Jun 18 2020, 09:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yrg7vV4a5o

It isn't about slavery. That's a side issue.
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post Jun 18 2020, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 18 2020, 10:58 AM) *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yrg7vV4a5o

It isn't about slavery. That's a side issue.


Please enlighten us??? I thought it was ALL about slavery as I do not see colour being an issue in this country with regards to opportunity, equality etc. The fact that it started in the USA has nothing to do with us.
No one has stood up and stated what exactly the ethnic community want? Simple enough question. If I was a black person living in the UK I would be fearful to where this is going to end, as a cause célèbre without a specific goal runs a very real risk of escalation into something a lot darker, (no pun), before it ends.

See they are going to pull poor old Cecil down.........Glad it's not my alma mater. angry.gif


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post Jun 18 2020, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 18 2020, 11:48 AM) *
Please enlighten us??? I thought it was ALL about slavery as I do not see colour being an issue in this country with regards to opportunity, equality etc. The fact that it started in the USA has nothing to do with us.
No one has stood up and stated what exactly the ethnic community want? Simple enough question. If I was a black person living in the UK I would be fearful to where this is going to end, as a cause célèbre without a specific goal runs a very real risk of escalation into something a lot darker, (no pun), before it ends.

See they are going to pull poor old Cecil down.........Glad it's not my alma mater. angry.gif


The issue is that black men, unarmed black men are being killed in the U.S. by police officers. That is a fact. However, there is another fact that the number of unarmed black me being killed by police is lower than unarmed white men or hispanic men killed by police. The number may be lower because there are less blacks in America than whites and hispanics.

Another fact is if your a black man, than the risk of dying in violent act by another black man is greater than dying at the hands of the police.

There are issues in the black community, but I feel the BLM movement should focus on all of them, not just this issue with the police.

No one should die in the streets, be it at the hands of the police, a shooting by rival gangs, a drunken brawl, or being stabbed with a knife.

My ancestors faced pogroms in Russia which had them escape to America. Some stopped in Poland, and they didn't survive the Nazi's.

Slavery, be it white on black, black on black, black on white, has gone on for centuries. It wasn't right then, it isn't right now, but it has been outlawed in the U.S. since 1865. Men died over it, white men. That is a fact.

In Britain and America there are opportunities out there. Yes, you will run into jerks, but it shouldn't stop you if you really want it to happen. No one will hand you anything, if your white or black, unless your in that small percentage of the elite The vast majority of us have to work.

Try to focus on the positive. There was a two term black POTUS. Maybe there will be a black PM. We already had loads of clowns. But seriously, stop looking at the past, as that was then. You will never wipe out racism, because mankind is evil, and people don't wear signs..

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post Jun 18 2020, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jun 18 2020, 04:43 PM) *
The issue is that black men, unarmed black men are being killed in the U.S. by police officers. That is a fact. However, there is another fact that the number of unarmed black me being killed by police is lower than unarmed white men or hispanic men killed by police. The number may be lower because there are less blacks in America than whites and hispanics.

Another fact is if your a black man, than the risk of dying in violent act by another black man is greater than dying at the hands of the police.

There are issues in the black community, but I feel the BLM movement should focus on all of them, not just this issue with the police.

No one should die in the streets, be it at the hands of the police, a shooting by rival gangs, a drunken brawl, or being stabbed with a knife.

My ancestors faced pogroms in Russia which had them escape to America. Some stopped in Poland, and they didn't survive the Nazi's.

Slavery, be it white on black, black on black, black on white, has gone on for centuries. It wasn't right then, it isn't right now, but it has been outlawed in the U.S. since 1865. Men died over it, white men. That is a fact.

In Britain and America there are opportunities out there. Yes, you will run into jerks, but it shouldn't stop you if you really want it to happen. No one will hand you anything, if your white or black, unless your in that small percentage of the elite The vast majority of us have to work.

Try to focus on the positive. There was a two term black POTUS. Maybe there will be a black PM. We already had loads of clowns. But seriously, stop looking at the past, as that was then. You will never wipe out racism, because mankind is evil, and people don't wear signs..


Well said. But you would say that as I guess you have white privilege. Off to the re-education camp with you!
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