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post Jun 6 2020, 05:38 PM
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Yes. They do.

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post Jun 10 2020, 07:17 PM
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The 'Taking a knee' thing is particularly abhorrent... especially those people that do it for around 8 minutes when it was a knee from a police officer that kicked this whole thing off.

QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Jun 10 2020, 11:45 AM) *
The slave traders were simply middlemen.

Odd isn't it, we never hear about those who actually rounded up and provided the slaves.

Wonder who they were.....
As for the 'white man bad, black man good, black man victim' agenda there's always been a glossing over of the massive part that various inter-tribal wars and rivalries had to play in the whole process. If it wasn't for the efforts of various black tribes and Kingdoms in rounding up their opponents and selling them to the slave traders there wouldn't be a BLM movement at all... Europeans entering the continent in search of slaves wouldn't have last a week before succumbing to malaria or some other disease. It's the sort of thing that should be met with embarrassed shuffling of feet and averting eyes when the subject of reparations is made against the nasty colonials as it was nations such as Nigeria, Senegal and Benin that benefited hugely from the trade.
When the Slave traders were african

Slavery was a standard part in the Circle of Life in Africa long before any white explorer set foot in the place. Slaves were taken as spoils of war and used for work, prostitution and sacrifice.

My daughter recently posted on her Facebook commenting about 'Educating herself about Black Lives Matter' and listening to a certain biased podcast. I suggested she educates herself and gets some balance... read about the Annual Customs of the Kingdom of Dahomey for instance. Dahomey (now Benin) held ceremonies to honour their King and it was normal for 500 (and up to around 4,000) slaves to be sacrificed by beheading
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post Jun 10 2020, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 10 2020, 08:17 PM) *
The 'Taking a knee' thing is particularly abhorrent... especially those people that do it for around 8 minutes when it was a knee from a police officer that kicked this whole thing off.

As for the 'white man bad, black man good, black man victim' agenda there's always been a glossing over of the massive part that various inter-tribal wars and rivalries had to play in the whole process. If it wasn't for the efforts of various black tribes and Kingdoms in rounding up their opponents and selling them to the slave traders there wouldn't be a BLM movement at all... Europeans entering the continent in search of slaves wouldn't have last a week before succumbing to malaria or some other disease. It's the sort of thing that should be met with embarrassed shuffling of feet and averting eyes when the subject of reparations is made against the nasty colonials as it was nations such as Nigeria, Senegal and Benin that benefited hugely from the trade.
When the Slave traders were african

Slavery was a standard part in the Circle of Life in Africa long before any white explorer set foot in the place. Slaves were taken as spoils of war and used for work, prostitution and sacrifice.

My daughter recently posted on her Facebook commenting about 'Educating herself about Black Lives Matter' and listening to a certain biased podcast. I suggested she educates herself and gets some balance... read about the Annual Customs of the Kingdom of Dahomey for instance. Dahomey (now Benin) held ceremonies to honour their King and it was normal for 500 (and up to around 4,000) slaves to be sacrificed by beheading

If some good comes from this little debacle it will be that those who had not given much thought to the matter will take time to research the issue and become a little more enlightened.
The bigots at either end will not change but the more they are marginalised the quicker we get to the sort of society we all seek.



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- TallDarkAndHandsome   Do black lives matter?   Jun 6 2020, 05:38 PM
- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 6 2020, 06...   Jun 7 2020, 08:44 AM
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|- - TallDarkAndHandsome   I'd pay to watch this on PPV. I'll be gett...   Jun 8 2020, 06:55 PM
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- - Mr Brown   The slave traders were simply middlemen. Odd is...   Jun 10 2020, 10:45 AM
|- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Jun 10 2020, 11:45 AM) ...   Jun 10 2020, 11:30 AM
|- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Jun 10 2020, 11:45 AM) ...   Jun 10 2020, 05:03 PM
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