Isn't WBC wonderful? Options

[Berkshirelad]

I have today received a letter from WBC about paying an extra £50/year to have my green bin emptied of garden waste from 3rd September.

I make the following points (in no particular order):-

1) The website referred to in the letter to either subscribe or obtain answers to FAQ doesn't work they have started it www. when they should have used info. Use the link in the letter simply results in a not found response.

2) The main website still lists 01635 42400 as the main switchboard number - despite this being changed to 01635 551111. Not even a automated transfer is set up. Just a snarky message about the change.

3) It also clearly stated in the FAQ that even if you leave the area (or worse, die), there is no refund proportional or otherwise - I'm not sure that a commercial company would get away with this.

4) I will not be succumbing to this extortion (small amount or not, it is extortion) and having to find it a single payment may not be easy for anybody on a fixed or low income. Any garden waste will simply go into the black bin I guess...

[Andy Capp]

However, the argument remains intact: people who pay to use the road are resentful of those who don’t.

[Biker1]

However, the argument remains intact: people who pay to use the road are resentful of those who don’t.

There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.

[Strafin]

There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.

Bang on Biker!

[Andy Capp]

There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.

I said pay to use it. Motorists have to pay a specific charge that other users don’t.

[Andy Capp]

Bang on Biker!

Yes he is, except he misread my post.

[Biker1]

Yes he is, except he misread my post.

No I didn't!
Mind you, it's not difficult with some of yours AC!

[Strafin]

Yes he is, except he misread my post.

I dont think your post is very clear then. There is no specific charge to use any roads other than the odd bridge and the M6 expressway!

[Andy Capp]

I dont think your post is very clear then. There is no specific charge to use any roads other than the odd bridge and the M6 expressway!

Don’t be daft both of you, a cyclist doesn’t have to pay to use the road, car drivers do!!!

[Andy Capp]

No I didn't!
Mind you, it's not difficult with some of yours AC!

You demonstrably did.

[Strafin]

Don’t be daft both of you, a cyclist doesn’t have to pay to use the road, car drivers do!!!

Please elaborate. Because it sounds like you're wrong.

[Andy Capp]

Please elaborate. Because it sounds like you're wrong.

Cyclists don’t have to pay VED!!!!

[Biker1]

Cyclists don’t have to pay VED!!!!

Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.

[Andy Capp]

Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.

AND I SAID MOTORISTS HAVE TO PAY A CHARGE TO USE THE HIGHWAY THAT CYCLISTS DON’T!

[Strafin]

I'm a cyclist and I pay VED

[Andy Capp]

I'm a cyclist and I pay VED

Good for you, but that doesn’t invalidate my point.

[x2lls]

Good for you, but that doesn’t invalidate my point.

I agree with you on this one.

[x2lls]

Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.

There is a specific payment required, aimed at any motor vehicle user and owner. It does not apply to cyclists.

THAT is AC's point.

[Berkshirelad]

There is a specific payment required, aimed at any motor vehicle user and owner. It does not apply to cyclists.

THAT is AC's point.

...but it goes to central funds - it is not a Road Fund and hasn't been for decades

[Andy Capp]

...but it goes to central funds - it is not a Road Fund and hasn't been for decades

We know.

[Andy1]

AND I SAID MOTORISTS HAVE TO PAY A CHARGE TO USE THE HIGHWAY THAT CYCLISTS DON’T!

No they don't, they're are not paying to use the roads, the only road that motorists pay to use are toll roads or congestion zones, none of which apply to A band motor vehicles or electric.