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post Jun 8 2018, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 8 2018, 05:32 PM) *
There is no mention of the actual reason for the acquittals.

"A police spokesman said the decision was taken after the CPS determined there was "insufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction"."

Not good enough for you?
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post Jun 8 2018, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2018, 05:39 PM) *
"A police spokesman said the decision was taken after the CPS determined there was "insufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction"."

Not good enough for you?


Just because you cant get a conviction doesn't mean someone isn't guilty. Guilty in the eyes of the law... no. But witness intimidation can go anlong way to proving your "innocence". But hey you invite these lovely fellas round to play with your kids. 😘
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post Jun 8 2018, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2018, 06:34 PM) *
Just because you cant get a conviction doesn't mean someone isn't guilty. Guilty in the eyes of the law... no. But witness intimidation can go anlong way to proving your "innocence". But hey you invite these lovely fellas round to play with your kids. 😘


So who decides someone is guilty? Bit worrying old son, I thought you were wholly against 'independent' legal systems, preferring British justice. Remember, radicalisation works both ways; good old Tommy is beginning to look a bit like another rabble rouser we eventually got rid of; all he needs to complete the picture is an eye patch and a hook.


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post Jun 8 2018, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2018, 06:34 PM) *
Just because you cant get a conviction doesn't mean someone isn't guilty. Guilty in the eyes of the law... no. But witness intimidation can go anlong way to proving your "innocence". But hey you invite these lovely fellas round to play with your kids. 😘

Worrying that you don’t respect our system of justice. Sharia might suit you better perhaps?
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post Jun 8 2018, 06:37 PM
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Worrying that you don’t respect our system of justice. Sharia might suit you better perhaps?

Dont worry old boy. Give it time and you will get it. I find your so called "intelligence" quite frightening. End of days stuff.
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post Jun 8 2018, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2018, 06:34 PM) *
Just because you cant get a conviction doesn't mean someone isn't guilty. Guilty in the eyes of the law... no. But witness intimidation can go anlong way to proving your "innocence". But hey you invite these lovely fellas round to play with your kids. 😘

Members of our aristocracy have been at it for hundreds of years.
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post Jun 8 2018, 07:07 PM
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Dont worry old boy. Give it time and you will get it. I find your so called "intelligence" quite frightening. End of days stuff.

I find your lack of intelligence amusing.
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post Jun 8 2018, 08:13 PM
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I find your lack of intelligence amusing.

Insults. 👏.
Congratulations. Did you used to live in a village? Only I think they lost you.
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post Jun 8 2018, 09:14 PM
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Insults. 👏.
Congratulations. Did you used to live in a village? Only I think they lost you.

Apologies.
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post Jun 8 2018, 11:31 PM
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One failed case might look like good news for the liberals but when set in its fuller context:

Oxford 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_sex_gang
Old Bailey court. Offences 2004-12. Convicted 2013. More than 300 victims from 12 yo/7 Muslim men convicted, aged 27-38. Gang leaders Eritean, others Pakistani. Bradford, Leeds, London, Slough, Bournemouth. Judge: “a series of sexual crimes of the utmost depravity”. Operation Bullfinch. Zeeshan Ahmed jailed for 18 months for perverting the course of justice by threatening to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. In July 2017 Oxford multi-millionaire Tariq Khuja lost his court battle to keep his name out of the media reports about this trial. He was never charged

• Oxford 2014
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/11263177...n_teenage_girl/
Oxford court. Victim 17 yo/Three abusers 26-28 yo Palestinian asylum seekers. Jailed 18, 18 and 42 months for sexual assault. One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release.

• Oxford 2016 (1)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14605684...ctim_in_Oxford/
Oxford court. Victim 14 yo (social skills of a 7 yo)/2 abusers now 34 & 37 yo convicted on rape and prostitution charges. Offences in 2005-07. Cocaine and alcohol. Simultaneous rape. Judge: “She was just an object to satisfy your lust. Over a number of months you deliberately groomed this girl.” Iffley. Thames Valley Police

• Oxford 2016 (2)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-36526128 http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14755110..._Sabaton_trial/
Oxford court. Victims 13 and 15 yo/Abusers 30-46 yo. Abuse from 1999-2007 and 2007-09. Convictions for: rape, indecent assault, making a threat to kill, supply of heroin and cocaine. Also, on 3 Nov 2016, for taking indecent pictures of a child. Defendants denied all charges. Some acquittals after one victim insisted her participation was consensual. Operation Sabaton.

• Oxford 2016 (3)
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/14803181....ith_schoolgirl/
Old Bailey. Victim 14/Abuser now 28. Offences 2008-2011. Accused of multiple rapes and sexual activity with a child over two years. Convicted only of sexual activity with a child. Jailed for 8 months

• Oxford 2017 (1) – trial set for 18 April 2017
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14915396...r_sex_offences/
Oxford Court. Seven accused. Operation Rolo. Trial date 18 April 2017

• Oxford 2017 (2) – trials set for September 2017 (6 men) and January 2018 (11 men)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15191943...urt_after_raid/
Oxford Court. 3 victims/17 accused. Offences 2008-2015. Banbury, Operation Nautical

• Oxford 2017 (3)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15339807..._abuse_charges/
Oxford Court. Victims include 14-16 year-olds/ 14 men charged, 35-55 yo. 36 charges for offences 1998-2005. Men from Oxford, Birmingham, Bolton, Cowley. Prosecutor: “This case concerns sexual exploitation on a massive scale. Routine, cynical and predatory sexual exploitation.” Trial expected to finish early 2018

There are now 170 known completed trials with convictions for rape jihad offences at 68 main locations.
And perhaps this snippet goes part way of why such cases fail, and I quote: "One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release."


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post Jun 9 2018, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 9 2018, 12:31 AM) *
One failed case might look like good news for the liberals but when set in its fuller context:

Oxford 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_sex_gang
Old Bailey court. Offences 2004-12. Convicted 2013. More than 300 victims from 12 yo/7 Muslim men convicted, aged 27-38. Gang leaders Eritean, others Pakistani. Bradford, Leeds, London, Slough, Bournemouth. Judge: “a series of sexual crimes of the utmost depravity”. Operation Bullfinch. Zeeshan Ahmed jailed for 18 months for perverting the course of justice by threatening to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. In July 2017 Oxford multi-millionaire Tariq Khuja lost his court battle to keep his name out of the media reports about this trial. He was never charged

• Oxford 2014
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/11263177...n_teenage_girl/
Oxford court. Victim 17 yo/Three abusers 26-28 yo Palestinian asylum seekers. Jailed 18, 18 and 42 months for sexual assault. One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release.

• Oxford 2016 (1)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14605684...ctim_in_Oxford/
Oxford court. Victim 14 yo (social skills of a 7 yo)/2 abusers now 34 & 37 yo convicted on rape and prostitution charges. Offences in 2005-07. Cocaine and alcohol. Simultaneous rape. Judge: “She was just an object to satisfy your lust. Over a number of months you deliberately groomed this girl.” Iffley. Thames Valley Police

• Oxford 2016 (2)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-36526128 http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14755110..._Sabaton_trial/
Oxford court. Victims 13 and 15 yo/Abusers 30-46 yo. Abuse from 1999-2007 and 2007-09. Convictions for: rape, indecent assault, making a threat to kill, supply of heroin and cocaine. Also, on 3 Nov 2016, for taking indecent pictures of a child. Defendants denied all charges. Some acquittals after one victim insisted her participation was consensual. Operation Sabaton.

• Oxford 2016 (3)
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/14803181....ith_schoolgirl/
Old Bailey. Victim 14/Abuser now 28. Offences 2008-2011. Accused of multiple rapes and sexual activity with a child over two years. Convicted only of sexual activity with a child. Jailed for 8 months

• Oxford 2017 (1) – trial set for 18 April 2017
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14915396...r_sex_offences/
Oxford Court. Seven accused. Operation Rolo. Trial date 18 April 2017

• Oxford 2017 (2) – trials set for September 2017 (6 men) and January 2018 (11 men)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15191943...urt_after_raid/
Oxford Court. 3 victims/17 accused. Offences 2008-2015. Banbury, Operation Nautical

• Oxford 2017 (3)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15339807..._abuse_charges/
Oxford Court. Victims include 14-16 year-olds/ 14 men charged, 35-55 yo. 36 charges for offences 1998-2005. Men from Oxford, Birmingham, Bolton, Cowley. Prosecutor: “This case concerns sexual exploitation on a massive scale. Routine, cynical and predatory sexual exploitation.” Trial expected to finish early 2018

There are now 170 known completed trials with convictions for rape jihad offences at 68 main locations.
And perhaps this snippet goes part way of why such cases fail, and I quote: "One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release."


Nothing to see here. How dare you publicise it?
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post Jun 9 2018, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 9 2018, 02:35 PM) *
Nothing to see here. How dare you publicise it?

It’s already been reported. He’s just posting links. That’s the point surely. There is no conspiracy of silence at all. There’s no need for people like Tommy Robinson. He’s just a criminal looking for publicity and stirring hatred.

I’m quite certain that most Muslim people feel the same way about child abuse as most Christian people do. It’s abhorrent. Incidentally I’m not sure paedophilia is the correct term in post pubescent children, but it’s still wrong obviously.
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post Jun 9 2018, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 9 2018, 03:11 PM) *
It’s already been reported. He’s just posting links. That’s the point surely. There is no conspiracy of silence at all. There’s no need for people like Tommy Robinson. He’s just a criminal looking for publicity and stirring hatred.

I’m quite certain that most Muslim people feel the same way about child abuse as most Christian people do. It’s abhorrent. Incidentally I’m not sure paedophilia is the correct term in post pubescent children, but it’s still wrong obviously.

Its not incidental and it gives an insight into your mind.
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post Jun 9 2018, 03:57 PM
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Its not incidental and it gives an insight into your mind.

Yes, logical and calm.
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post Jun 9 2018, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 9 2018, 12:31 AM) *
One failed case might look like good news for the liberals but when set in its fuller context:

Oxford 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_sex_gang
Old Bailey court. Offences 2004-12. Convicted 2013. More than 300 victims from 12 yo/7 Muslim men convicted, aged 27-38. Gang leaders Eritean, others Pakistani. Bradford, Leeds, London, Slough, Bournemouth. Judge: “a series of sexual crimes of the utmost depravity”. Operation Bullfinch. Zeeshan Ahmed jailed for 18 months for perverting the course of justice by threatening to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. In July 2017 Oxford multi-millionaire Tariq Khuja lost his court battle to keep his name out of the media reports about this trial. He was never charged

• Oxford 2014
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/11263177...n_teenage_girl/
Oxford court. Victim 17 yo/Three abusers 26-28 yo Palestinian asylum seekers. Jailed 18, 18 and 42 months for sexual assault. One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release.

• Oxford 2016 (1)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14605684...ctim_in_Oxford/
Oxford court. Victim 14 yo (social skills of a 7 yo)/2 abusers now 34 & 37 yo convicted on rape and prostitution charges. Offences in 2005-07. Cocaine and alcohol. Simultaneous rape. Judge: “She was just an object to satisfy your lust. Over a number of months you deliberately groomed this girl.” Iffley. Thames Valley Police

• Oxford 2016 (2)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-36526128 http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14755110..._Sabaton_trial/
Oxford court. Victims 13 and 15 yo/Abusers 30-46 yo. Abuse from 1999-2007 and 2007-09. Convictions for: rape, indecent assault, making a threat to kill, supply of heroin and cocaine. Also, on 3 Nov 2016, for taking indecent pictures of a child. Defendants denied all charges. Some acquittals after one victim insisted her participation was consensual. Operation Sabaton.

• Oxford 2016 (3)
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/14803181....ith_schoolgirl/
Old Bailey. Victim 14/Abuser now 28. Offences 2008-2011. Accused of multiple rapes and sexual activity with a child over two years. Convicted only of sexual activity with a child. Jailed for 8 months

• Oxford 2017 (1) – trial set for 18 April 2017
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14915396...r_sex_offences/
Oxford Court. Seven accused. Operation Rolo. Trial date 18 April 2017

• Oxford 2017 (2) – trials set for September 2017 (6 men) and January 2018 (11 men)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15191943...urt_after_raid/
Oxford Court. 3 victims/17 accused. Offences 2008-2015. Banbury, Operation Nautical

• Oxford 2017 (3)
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15339807..._abuse_charges/
Oxford Court. Victims include 14-16 year-olds/ 14 men charged, 35-55 yo. 36 charges for offences 1998-2005. Men from Oxford, Birmingham, Bolton, Cowley. Prosecutor: “This case concerns sexual exploitation on a massive scale. Routine, cynical and predatory sexual exploitation.” Trial expected to finish early 2018

There are now 170 known completed trials with convictions for rape jihad offences at 68 main locations.
And perhaps this snippet goes part way of why such cases fail, and I quote: "One abuser had threatened to shoot the victim of the sexual assault if she did not stop talking to police. Palestinian. To be deported on release."


Yes, quite dreadful and no one denies that. Nonetheless, the issue has been identified and actions are already in hand designed to deal with the issue. It's no different at all to crimes committed by identifiable population segments, when they are recognised, action is taken. So again, as a court case was underway and wider investigations / corrective actions being put in place, Tommy Robinson's intervention will be seen by many as wholly unnecessary. If he had other aims what are they?


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post Jun 9 2018, 05:55 PM
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Yes, logical and calm.

No, Woke and Soyboy
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 9 2018, 06:55 PM) *
No, Woke and Soyboy

Insults?
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 9 2018, 08:42 PM) *
Insults?

I dont think either are an insult. Just a definition.
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 9 2018, 08:51 PM) *
I dont think either are an insult. Just a definition.

Calling someone effeminate? It's an insult used by the far right. Are these your lot? Were you and the other Nazis from here there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9q-0wj31-E
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post Jun 10 2018, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2018, 07:01 AM) *
Calling someone effeminate? It's an insult used by the far right. Are these your lot? Were you and the other Nazis from here there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9q-0wj31-E


What if we were? Or are you against protests unless they meet your criteria?
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