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TallDarkAndHandsome
So Tommy Robinson is now imprsioned for reporting outside the court on the rape trial of an accused 29 men.
His crime? Reporting on a trial where no reporting is allowed.
He will most likely be murdered in prison.
Thousands protesting in Downing St.
And not a word in the news as it is banned from reporting his arrest!
Whether you agree with him or not this turn of events is a worry.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 28 2018, 07:30 PM) *
So Tommy Robinson is now imprsioned for reporting outside the court on the rape trial of an accused 29 men.
His crime? Reporting on a trial where no reporting is allowed.
He will most likely be murdered in prison.
Thousands protesting in Downing St.
And not a word in the news as it is banned from reporting his arrest!
Whether you agree with him or not this turn of events is a worry.


Extremely so. Freedom of speech and expression is the bastion of our democracy. Like you said friend or foe is irrelevant, we are storing up a lot of problems down the line with this. angry.gif
newres
He knew there were reporting restrictions and he breached them. He has a suspended sentence doesn’t he? Why should he be above the law?
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ May 28 2018, 08:50 PM) *
He knew there were reporting restrictions and he breached them. He has a suspended sentence doesn’t he? Why should he be above the law?

Why are there reporting restrictions on his arrest and imprisonment?

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson

Oh dear hush hush aint working. Imbeciles. You cant hush social media.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 28 2018, 09:46 PM) *
Why are there reporting restrictions on his arrest and imprisonment?

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson

Oh dear hush hush aint working. Imbeciles. You cant hush social media.

YUP, mustn't expose Muslim grooming gangs! Police seem more determined to shut him up than they were in pursuing the Muslim grooming gangs in the first place. I wonder why?
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 28 2018, 09:46 PM) *
Why are there reporting restrictions on his arrest and imprisonment?

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson

Oh dear hush hush aint working. Imbeciles. You cant hush social media.

The reporting restrictions were on the trial he was “reporting”. I’ve no idea why, but perhaps to protect the identity of some of the victims. Whether you agree with the law or not, you have to accept that if you breach it, you will be in trouble. Leaving aside the political debate that’s it!
Strafin
Hes not a reporter either is he? And those two clowns from Britain First are in prison for incorrectly "reporting" on another trial, which put innocent people and their families at risk.
newres
QUOTE (Strafin @ May 29 2018, 04:22 PM) *
Hes not a reporter either is he? And those two clowns from Britain First are in prison for incorrectly "reporting" on another trial, which put innocent people and their families at risk.

No, his agenda is to stir hatred against Muslims. Additionally he’s a convicted fraudster, has an assault conviction and also attempted to enter a friendly country with fake documents. But leaving that aside he knowingly “reported” a trial at which he knew was illegal. Quite why there’s outrage I’ve no idea.
gel
Many of us are outraged at the suppression of the facts here and the establishment desire to protect Muslim grooming gangs.

Multiple cases where police/social services didn't act when victims (young white females) reported abuse inflicted upon them by these delightful citizens, primarily of one background that ends in "stani".
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (gel @ May 29 2018, 08:27 PM) *
Many of us are outraged at the suppression of the facts here and the establishment desire to protect Muslim grooming gangs.

Multiple cases where police/social services didn't act when victims (young white females) reported abuse inflicted upon them by these delightful citizens, primarily of one background that ends in "stani".

And it took a press challenge to even allow them to report on him being locked up. If he broke reporting rules then by the law of the land, even though I don't agree with these said rules (that only apply seem to apply to none white paedophilles), he knew he risked jail. To bar reporing on his arrest and imprisonment was wrong in my view. I think that stirred up more trouble than anything else. Oh and if harm does happen to him in jail then all **** will break loose.
Andy Capp
It seems the judge was concerned about a potential for a re-trial.
On the edge
Not quite sure where this myth that we have total freedom of speech in the UK. If we did, what is the point and why do we maintain a 'Speakers Corner' in Hyde Park? Of course, at the moment we are covered by the EU Human Rights Convention; which looks good until you read the sub clauses. So, I'm not quite sure what Tommy Robinson is actually complaining about. Now, a real protest would be to start a crowd fund appeal and collect the cash to fund a top rate Barrister to put his complaint to the Courts surely?
newres
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 29 2018, 10:19 PM) *
It seems the judge was concerned about a potential for a re-trial.

Probably as a result of all the hate Robinson and his ilk have whipped up. Regardless, he knew there were restrictions. He was on a suspended sentence. He’s a serial criminal and he’s where he belongs for a while.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2018, 11:13 AM) *
Probably as a result of all the hate Robinson and his ilk have whipped up. Regardless, he knew there were restrictions. He was on a suspended sentence. He’s a serial criminal and he’s where he belongs for a while.

I hope they make sure he is protected inside. He is a target and any assault will stir the pot further. You may call him a serial criminal. Others may call him a freedom fighter. 😂
je suis Charlie
He's doing what he believes is right, many of us don't think it's right that justice in this country should be done in secret, behind closed doors, in the shadows. When these animals perform acts of such overwhelming depravity they should be rooted out of their cosy little liberal lefty funded cess pit bolt holes and stood up against a wall, in the full and stark glare of the public and the media and then justice be done, and seen to be done.
Andy Capp
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 31 2018, 05:40 PM) *
He's doing what he believes is right, many of us don't think it's right that justice in this country should be done in secret, behind closed doors, in the shadows. When these animals perform acts of such overwhelming depravity they should be rooted out of their cosy little liberal lefty funded cess pit bolt holes and stood up against a wall, in the full and stark glare of the public and the media and then justice be done, and seen to be done.

Just like the glory days of the middle ages!
On the edge
He just needs a decent brief! All the noise we've heard recently is fine, but it doesn't look as if anyone is willing to put their hand in their pocket to help him get some professional help with his campaign. So again, as the economists tell us, money sends a message.
dannyboy
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 31 2018, 10:32 PM) *
Just like the glory days of the middle ages!



Sharia Law Now!!
On the edge
The campaign would have been far more effective and far more productive if he'd simply applied to the courts to have the reporting ban lifted. That would have given him a legitimate platform and kept him out of gaol.

Trouble is, the cost. Nonetheless. if what he is doing is genuinely widely supported, the mainstream media might well have helped. Similarly, an on line appeal would have been successful.

So it looks rather like the campaign has very little real support.
x2lls
QUOTE (newres @ May 31 2018, 11:13 AM) *
Probably as a result of all the hate Robinson and his ilk have whipped up. Regardless, he knew there were restrictions. He was on a suspended sentence. He’s a serial criminal and he’s where he belongs for a while.


If ever I saw a misrepresentation of the truth, this is it. Newres, you should be ashamed of yourself.

#IAMILK
Andy Capp
What on earth happened to poor Tommy Robinson? 10 Things You Should Know

“It can now be reported that Tommy Robinson, the former leader of the English Defence League, convicted fraudster, sometime-football hooligan and self-reinvented free speech advocate, was on Friday 25 May 2018 imprisoned for 13 months for contempt of court after livestreaming a broadcast, including footage of participants in a criminal trial, outside Leeds Crown Court...”
On the edge
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 2 2018, 09:01 AM) *
What on earth happened to poor Tommy Robinson? 10 Things You Should Know

“It can now be reported that Tommy Robinson, the former leader of the English Defence League, convicted fraudster, sometime-football hooligan and self-reinvented free speech advocate, was on Friday 25 May 2018 imprisoned for 13 months for contempt of court after livestreaming a broadcast, including footage of participants in a criminal trial, outside Leeds Crown Court...”


.....and presumably, like any self respecting 'freedom fighter' he'll go on hunger strike.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 2 2018, 02:37 PM) *
.....and presumably, like any self respecting 'freedom fighter' he'll go on hunger strike.

You hope. Chances are he'll be murdered inside so all the libs will be happy then. Job done.
On the edge
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 2 2018, 03:09 PM) *
You hope. Chances are he'll be murdered inside so all the libs will be happy then. Job done.


Making assumptions again and getting it wrong as usual. He is seriously damaging any chance of a sensible debate, let alone a sensible solution to the issues he seeks to address. I'll say it again, whilst his enthusiasm isn't in question; his lack of finance and indeed organisation, says he has no credible support.

Let's also be brutally honest, once he's inside, believe me, he'll find friends. His profile suggests he'll meet rather more than many imagine.
x2lls
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 1 2018, 07:19 AM) *
He just needs a decent brief! All the noise we've heard recently is fine, but it doesn't look as if anyone is willing to put their hand in their pocket to help him get some professional help with his campaign. So again, as the economists tell us, money sends a message.


Where have you been? There are many who ARE helping by donating. Myself included.
x2lls
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 2 2018, 09:01 AM) *
What on earth happened to poor Tommy Robinson? 10 Things You Should Know

“It can now be reported that Tommy Robinson, the former leader of the English Defence League, convicted fraudster, sometime-football hooligan and self-reinvented free speech advocate, was on Friday 25 May 2018 imprisoned for 13 months for contempt of court after livestreaming a broadcast, including footage of participants in a criminal trial, outside Leeds Crown Court...”


If the secret barrister is indeed a barrister, then the text of that blog says it all.
x2lls
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 2 2018, 05:29 PM) *
Making assumptions again and getting it wrong as usual. He is seriously damaging any chance of a sensible debate, let alone a sensible solution to the issues he seeks to address. I'll say it again, whilst his enthusiasm isn't in question; his lack of finance and indeed organisation, says he has no credible support.

Let's also be brutally honest, once he's inside, believe me, he'll find friends. His profile suggests he'll meet rather more than many imagine.


Unless the likes of TR exist, there will be no debate. Just look at the crap thrown at Lord Pearson for attempting to debate the very issues a lot of Brits are concerned about.

There is plenty of support and finance. Have you completely ignored the MEP's debate (Janice Atkinson), Germany, Australia, NZ, Tel Aviv, USA, London, Manchester, Online etc. This has gone global. Monitor this 577,000 + and the trend has not slowed. https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson
x2lls
QUOTE (newres @ May 29 2018, 06:23 AM) *
The reporting restrictions were on the trial he was “reporting”. I’ve no idea why, but perhaps to protect the identity of some of the victims. Whether you agree with the law or not, you have to accept that if you breach it, you will be in trouble. Leaving aside the political debate that’s it!



If you took the time to watch the whole event, you will see and hear he asked the police where he could stand. You choose to ignore that fact, conveniently. This is a POLITICAL issue. He has been a thorn for years, so now they attempt to bring in capital punishment through the back door. Lord Pearson was correct in threatening the Home Secretary with legal action if anything happens to him. Why is it that a man who is telling the TRUTH about muslim gangs is jailed in less than 5 hours? I can only assume that your opposition to Tommy Robinson means you agree with sharia, fg
m, the hideous treatment of women and animals and those that do not believe in a **** who rode on a unicorn and shagged an 8 year old.
x2lls
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 2 2018, 05:29 PM) *
Making assumptions again and getting it wrong as usual. He is seriously damaging any chance of a sensible debate, let alone a sensible solution to the issues he seeks to address. I'll say it again, whilst his enthusiasm isn't in question; his lack of finance and indeed organisation, says he has no credible support.

Let's also be brutally honest, once he's inside, believe me, he'll find friends. His profile suggests he'll meet rather more than many imagine.



Let's be brutally honest? Believe me? Is that like making a statement ending with "Fact"?

You know sod all about his life in the government detainment centre for those that don't tow the line or expose the narrative for what it is. Nothing.
newres
QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 2 2018, 11:15 PM) *
If you took the time to watch the whole event, you will see and hear he asked the police where he could stand. You choose to ignore that fact, conveniently. This is a POLITICAL issue. He has been a thorn for years, so now they attempt to bring in capital punishment through the back door. Lord Pearson was correct in threatening the Home Secretary with legal action if anything happens to him. Why is it that a man who is telling the TRUTH about muslim gangs is jailed in less than 5 hours? I can only assume that your opposition to Tommy Robinson means you agree with sharia, fg
m, the hideous treatment of women and animals and those that do not believe in a **** who rode on a unicorn and shagged an 8 year old.

Well I can only assume that by supporting him that you do not believe in our western values of justice and fair trials as it appears that’s the reason for the restrictions. If so, perhaps you belong in an extreme Muslim country? Or you think there’s a conspiracy? I’ll get you a tin foil hat. Like all extremists you can’t see the truth through the rhetoric.

Oh and why would you contribute money to a criminal which is what he is? Reputable politicians, reporters etc. don’t have a criminal past. Interestingly extremists of all persuasions often do but it doesn’t stop the under educated following.
On the edge
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 05:59 AM) *
Well I can only assume that by supporting him that you do not believe in our western values of justice and fair trials as it appears that’s the reason for the restrictions. If so, perhaps you belong in an extreme Muslim country? Or you think there’s a conspiracy? I’ll get you a tin foil hat. Like all extremists you can’t see the truth through the rhetoric.

Oh and why would you contribute money to a criminal which is what he is? Reputable politicians, reporters etc. don’t have a criminal past. Interestingly extremists of all persuasions often do but it doesn’t stop the under educated following.


Quite. Essentially, Tommy Robinson has become the right wing Arthur Scargill, so a real issue and any genuine debate about it just gets lost because their antics swamp any other voice. Sadly, his earlier brushes with the law for violence were nothing to do with his political beliefs; so to me, he's simply someone who enjoys a ruck, no matter the reason. Given that his political campaigning is now having quite a negative effect, his supporters might question how any money or support is deployed.
On the edge
QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 2 2018, 11:15 PM) *
If you took the time to watch the whole event, you will see and hear he asked the police where he could stand. You choose to ignore that fact, conveniently. This is a POLITICAL issue. He has been a thorn for years, so now they attempt to bring in capital punishment through the back door. Lord Pearson was correct in threatening the Home Secretary with legal action if anything happens to him. Why is it that a man who is telling the TRUTH about muslim gangs is jailed in less than 5 hours? I can only assume that your opposition to Tommy Robinson means you agree with sharia, fg
m, the hideous treatment of women and animals and those that do not believe in a **** who rode on a unicorn and shagged an 8 year old.


If it's a political issue and I wouldn't disagree that the question he raises is certainly worth serious debate, then to gain any traction at all some input to our political arrangement is necessary. UKIP being an example of a group pursuing a single issue for a long period totally against established thinking; against the odds, they succeeded. They had their own share of extremists who were dealt with by a proper leadership. The only thing they failed to manage was the post success sustainability. So again, Tommy Robinsons approach which seems to hinge simply on public disorder is going to get nowhere fast.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 3 2018, 07:40 AM) *
If it's a political issue and I wouldn't disagree that the question he raises is certainly worth serious debate, then to gain any traction at all some input to our political arrangement is necessary. UKIP being an example of a group pursuing a single issue for a long period totally against established thinking; against the odds, they succeeded. They had their own share of extremists who were dealt with by a proper leadership. The only thing they failed to manage was the post success sustainability. So again, Tommy Robinsons approach which seems to hinge simply on public disorder is going to get nowhere fast.


A lot of people agree with what he is saying even if he may be the wrong person to say it. The trouble is ANYONE, even Jesus Christ himself would be the wrong person to "say it" and would be persecuted.
On the edge
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 3 2018, 09:25 AM) *
A lot of people agree with what he is saying even if he may be the wrong person to say it. The trouble is ANYONE, even Jesus Christ himself would be the wrong person to "say it" and would be persecuted.


Persecuted rather than prosecuted yes, a world of difference. Norman Tebbitt was never afraid to speak out and is still more than willing to say things that go against establishment thinking, as did Enoch Powell. Both had followings, both were and indeed, still are reported but still no substantial movement. Nigel Farage was persecuted and generally rubbished by an establishment who didn't like him at all, nonetheless, he succeeded. So, then, perhaps for Tommy Robinson, the issue is the message as well as the messenger.
newres
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 3 2018, 02:17 PM) *
Persecuted rather than prosecuted yes, a world of difference. Norman Tebbitt was never afraid to speak out and is still more than willing to say things that go against establishment thinking, as did Enoch Powell. Both had followings, both were and indeed, still are reported but still no substantial movement. Nigel Farage was persecuted and generally rubbished by an establishment who didn't like him at all, nonetheless, he succeeded. So, then, perhaps for Tommy Robinson, the issue is the message as well as the messenger.

What’s the message though? It’s not about protection of the vulnerable, it’s merely making a fuss whenever there’s a grooming gang in court with brown faces. It’s infantile. Wasn’t an EDL founder recently convicted of paedophila?
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 02:25 PM) *
What’s the message though? It’s not about protection of the vulnerable, it’s merely making a fuss whenever there’s a grooming gang in court with brown faces. It’s infantile. Wasn’t an EDL founder recently convicted of paedophila?

This lot?

https://timetostartcaring.com/the-labour-pa...aedophile-list/

And you are a Labour supporter.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 3 2018, 03:30 PM) *

No I'm not. tongue.gif

But anyway, who's going to go round searching for and screaming about the few responsible for this and imply that in some way the Labour party is responsible? Anyone that did would be condemned as a nutter I'd think. Only other nutters would support him. It's mental.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 04:54 PM) *
No I'm not. tongue.gif

But anyway, who's going to go round searching for and screaming about the few responsible for this and imply that in some way the Labour party is responsible? Anyone that did would be condemned as a nutter I'd think. Only other nutters would support him. It's mental.


You quoted that an EDL member was convicted. You are calling yourself a nutter.😂
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 3 2018, 05:51 PM) *
You quoted that an EDL member was convicted. You are calling yourself a nutter.😂

I was making the point that in all religions, races, parties, professions there exist deviants. What we should not do is draw conclusions about everyone in that group based upon the actions of a few. To do so lacks intelligence.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 09:34 PM) *
I was making the point that in all religions, races, parties, professions there exist deviants. What we should not do is draw conclusions about everyone in that group based upon the actions of a few. To do so lacks intelligence.

Quite agree. Practice what you preach then. Just a thought.
x2lls
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 09:34 PM) *
I was making the point that in all religions, races, parties, professions there exist deviants. What we should not do is draw conclusions about everyone in that group based upon the actions of a few. To do so lacks intelligence.



Who is?
x2lls
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 3 2018, 03:30 PM) *



I think you missed one or two.
x2lls
To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.
x2lls
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 05:59 AM) *
Well I can only assume that by supporting him that you do not believe in our western values of justice and fair trials as it appears that’s the reason for the restrictions. If so, perhaps you belong in an extreme Muslim country? Or you think there’s a conspiracy? I’ll get you a tin foil hat. Like all extremists you can’t see the truth through the rhetoric.

Oh and why would you contribute money to a criminal which is what he is? Reputable politicians, reporters etc. don’t have a criminal past. Interestingly extremists of all persuasions often do but it doesn’t stop the under educated following.


Worthless , just worthless.
On the edge
QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 3 2018, 11:00 PM) *
To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.


As Thomas Jefferson said; question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.

TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 3 2018, 11:00 PM) *
To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.


You must be "uneducated" to hold such views.😂 In newres world that is. I bet you are white and right wing. All things bad.
je suis Charlie
here's another 'soldja' for newres and his ilk to defend.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/31/uk/husna...intl/index.html
x2lls
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 5 2018, 12:02 AM) *
here's another 'soldja' for newres and his ilk to defend.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/31/uk/husna...intl/index.html


Yet more scum I have to share my air supply with.

And for the "Educated", a very well presented view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0sVEKqAkhY&app=desktop

newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2018, 08:38 PM) *
You must be "uneducated" to hold such views.😂 In newres world that is. I bet you are white and right wing. All things bad.

Oh be serious. Look at his rant above. The guy’s an unhinged extremist. He calls a religion that’s 1,300 years old “bad for humanity”.

TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 5 2018, 05:20 AM) *
Oh be serious. Look at his rant above. The guy’s an unhinged extremist. He calls a religion that’s 1,300 years old “bad for humanity”.

Sorry but I agree with that statement. I'd change it thiugh to ALL religions are bad for humanity. Anyone who believes in Sky fairies is in my mind lumped in with "flat earthers". Basically you beleive in something that is not logical.
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