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x2lls
post Sep 10 2018, 06:21 PM
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How do we deal with this?

Are we all guilty now?

Is the Stasi popping back in?


@syptweet (South Yorkshire Police)

Just look at the response to them.

https://twitter.com/syptweet/status/1039087365128708096



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post Sep 11 2018, 01:42 PM
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Inciting hate and hate crimes should be investigated and treated the same as every other crime that the police have to investigate. Everyone who experiences a crime feels that they have been violated in some way and it is not down to anyone other than the law makers, and the courts for enforcement, to determine what should and shouldn't be pursued.

Having an opinion about gingers probably isnt a hate crime, Following one home and verbally abusing them will be.
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post Sep 11 2018, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 11 2018, 02:42 PM) *
Inciting hate and hate crimes should be investigated and treated the same as every other crime that the police have to investigate. Everyone who experiences a crime feels that they have been violated in some way and it is not down to anyone other than the law makers, and the courts for enforcement, to determine what should and shouldn't be pursued.

Having an opinion about gingers probably isnt a hate crime, Following one home and verbally abusing them will be.

Yes, but the people on here spouting their unpleasant views aren't hate crimes. There is the distinction.
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post Sep 11 2018, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 11 2018, 05:32 PM) *
Yes, but the people on here spouting their unpleasant views aren't hate crimes. There is the distinction.



Your views are also unpleasant. We don't have a monopoly.


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post Sep 12 2018, 05:35 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 11 2018, 09:09 PM) *
Your views are also unpleasant. We don't have a monopoly.

How is not hating people because of their religion or colour unpleasant?
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post Sep 12 2018, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 12 2018, 06:35 AM) *
How is not hating people because of their religion or colour unpleasant?



Boldy bit BS.

That's not my perspective. The premise of your argument is plip plops, HUGE smelly ones at that.

THIS is my message. Another example of Rotherham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOyhSx0cEQ


You have accused me many times of racism based on colour and religion. Shame on you.

I have blogs showing my great friendship with Sikh Hindu etc. But why are you dragging me into this BS? FFS, I work with a muslim woman who totally agrees with my perspective as a westerner. She has escaped the rape culture of her, sadly, homeland.

But hey,

Why should I justify myself to you as if I have to answer to you?

I didn't, I gave you what I have, experience.


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post Sep 13 2018, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 12 2018, 10:01 PM) *
Boldy bit BS.

That's not my perspective. The premise of your argument is plip plops, HUGE smelly ones at that.

THIS is my message. Another example of Rotherham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOyhSx0cEQ


You have accused me many times of racism based on colour and religion. Shame on you.

I have blogs showing my great friendship with Sikh Hindu etc. But why are you dragging me into this BS? FFS, I work with a muslim woman who totally agrees with my perspective as a westerner. She has escaped the rape culture of her, sadly, homeland.

But hey,

Why should I justify myself to you as if I have to answer to you?

I didn't, I gave you what I have, experience.

Any Muslims that work with you must be certifiable if they know you share Tommy Robinson videos. Either that or you’re a liar. I suspect the latter.
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post Sep 13 2018, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 13 2018, 05:55 AM) *
Any Muslims that work with you must be certifiable if they know you share Tommy Robinson videos. Either that or you’re a liar. I suspect the latter.


Does that statement not perpetuate the polarisation? The inference that any female muslim who does not adhere to their "chosen" path is somehow mentally challenged is as absurd as suggesting that anyone who watches a Tommy Robinson video is a neo-nazi. Remember the right only exists through fear generated by events, not as a default position. Only when everyone lives by the law of the Country will equality be the norm, but that is a long way off.


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post Sep 13 2018, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 13 2018, 01:54 PM) *
Does that statement not perpetuate the polarisation? The inference that any female muslim who does not adhere to their "chosen" path is somehow mentally challenged is as absurd as suggesting that anyone who watches a Tommy Robinson video is a neo-nazi. Remember the right only exists through fear generated by events, not as a default position. Only when everyone lives by the law of the Country will equality be the norm, but that is a long way off.

That's not what I wrote.
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