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post Jul 6 2009, 05:42 PM
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Allegedly there was some trouble after the Newbury Carnival and also other people described how the atmosphere become sinister later on. Did anyone else notice or see this? I have heard that the there was an obvious Police presence early on but had gone by the early evening. Someone reported that the there was a fight in Northbrook Street that might have been caught on camera.

Although I don't always go, I often see or hear of trouble after big events like the Hennessy Gold Cup or the Newbury Fair. Is it possible that the Newbury's Carnival could be afflicted with yob behaviour as well?
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post Jul 7 2009, 12:54 PM
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Iommi's right on this one. Been around the town a few years meself and it's nothing new. What I think has changed is the age of those involved and causing the problems. They're a lot younger now and a lot braver because they know that all they'll get, even if they do end up getting arrested is a slap on the wrist (again) and a "Don't do it again" (again)!!!!!


Curious about an earlier post relating to our 'constables lack of interest / duties' though? Can anyone elaborate?


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post Jul 7 2009, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (Roost @ Jul 7 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Iommi's right on this one. Been around the town a few years meself and it's nothing new. What I think has changed is the age of those involved and causing the problems. They're a lot younger now and a lot braver because they know that all they'll get, even if they do end up getting arrested is a slap on the wrist (again) and a "Don't do it again" (again)!!!!!


Curious about an earlier post relating to our 'constables lack of interest / duties' though? Can anyone elaborate?



I was talking to a police officer awhile back and he told me that they have so much paper work that they sometimes have to turn a blind eye just to catch up. Also; a few years ago there was a programme on the same subject that said police were not arresting where they should because of paperwork. I've also been in Newbury when drunks and yobbos were causing trouble and it was witnessed by police officers; they didn't do anything. I hope that clarifies my remarks?

I can also tell you other stories where they didn't act or just turned a blind eye.
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post Jul 7 2009, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 7 2009, 02:23 PM) *
I was talking to a police officer awhile back and he told me that they have so much paper work that they sometimes have to turn a blind eye just to catch up. Also; a few years ago there was a programme on the same subject that said police were not arresting where they should because of paperwork. I've also been in Newbury when drunks and yobbos were causing trouble and it was witnessed by police officers; they didn't do anything. I hope that clarifies my remarks?

I can also tell you other stories where they didn't act or just turned a blind eye.

Yes, but do you think that it is acceptable. I for one don't.
I want a police force that is effective in minimising crime and anti-social behaviour. Not one that ignores it because they are too busy. That's not what I pay for.


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post Jul 7 2009, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 7 2009, 03:37 PM) *
Yes, but do you think that it is acceptable. I for one don't.
I want a police force that is effective in minimising crime and anti-social behaviour. Not one that ignores it because they are too busy. That's not what I pay for.



Again I agree with you. Police are there to protect and deal with crime. I'll give you another example of something that happened to me. In February when the snow was down I went to walk the dog at 12.30 am Sunday morning. I witnessed a crime in progress and called the police (999) and was to told to wait outside and a police will be dispatched a car immediately. It was freezing cold and I waited out there for over an hour and nobody came. I made an official complaint but nothing happened. However, I learnt my lesson. I also wrote a letter to the NWN to show my anger but they didn’t print it (because, as they said, it was too long). They, the police, could have caught the culprits in the act if they did what they promised; came out immediately. The public have no faith in the police.
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post Jul 7 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 7 2009, 03:45 PM) *
Again I agree with you. Police are there to protect and deal with crime. I'll give you another example of something that happened to me. In February when the snow was down I went to walk the dog at 12.30 am Sunday morning. I witnessed a crime in progress and called the police (999) and was to told to wait outside and a police will be dispatched a car immediately. It was freezing cold and I waited out there for over an hour and nobody came. I made an official complaint but nothing happened. However, I learnt my lesson. I also wrote a letter to the NWN to show my anger but they didn’t print it (because, as they said, it was too long). They, the police, could have caught the culprits in the act if they did what they promised; came out immediately. The public have no faith in the police.

Yes, and I can also cite similar examples of a lethargic Police force and an ineffectual justice system.
It is a pity that others on the


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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 7 2009, 03:50 PM) *
Yes, and I can also cite similar examples of a lethargic Police force and an ineffectual justice system.
It is a pity that others on the Forum think that what we are seeing on our streets is OK. How bad does it have to get before that view gets changed.



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