Tommy Robinson, Police State Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

So Tommy Robinson is now imprsioned for reporting outside the court on the rape trial of an accused 29 men.
His crime? Reporting on a trial where no reporting is allowed.
He will most likely be murdered in prison.
Thousands protesting in Downing St.
And not a word in the news as it is banned from reporting his arrest!
Whether you agree with him or not this turn of events is a worry.

[x2lls]

Will the "Press"(?) not get it?

Tommy yet again has destroyed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrYfOHTsYg

[Andy Capp]

Will the "Press"(?) not get it?

Tommy yet again has destroyed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrYfOHTsYg

Predominantly Muslim country in 20 years time?

[SirWilliam]

Predominantly Muslim country in 20 years time?

Maybe, maybe not, but I wouldn't bet against being a muslim world by the year 2200. There again I would be equally surprised that planet earth has survived that long.

[Andy Capp]

Maybe, maybe not, but I wouldn't bet against being a muslim world by the year 2200. There again I would be equally surprised that planet earth has survived that long.

It was the giveaway question from an insidious and dangerous man. That being said, there does seem to be a ‘black out’ in the media and it does seem due process wasn’t followed by his imprisonment.

[On the edge]

It was the giveaway question from an insidious and dangerous man. That being said, there does seem to be a ‘black out’ in the media and it does seem due process wasn’t followed by his imprisonment.

Difficult to disagree with that; dangerous times we live in.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Difficult to disagree with that; dangerous times we live in.

A lot of the danger is with social media. People surround themselves with people they agree with and block anyone who has a different view. This polarises opinions further and instead of debate you inevitably get violence. All people should be listened to, even if you disagree or find the opinions they have objectionable. If you don't you end up being brainwashed.

[On the edge]

A lot of the danger is with social media. People surround themselves with people they agree with and block anyone who has a different view. This polarises opinions further and instead of debate you inevitably get violence. All people should be listened to, even if you disagree or find the opinions they have objectionable. If you don't you end up being brainwashed.

To some extent, but not strictly true. For me, Tommy Robinson's message was drowned out by his previous unpleasant and violent antics. Indeed, in exactly the same way as Arthur Scargill's credibility was shot in exactly the same way.

The real issue is those who, for whatever reason, already accept these views and opinions, but do very little calmly and practically to feed into mainstream debate.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

To some extent, but not strictly true. For me, Tommy Robinson's message was drowned out by his previous unpleasant and violent antics. Indeed, in exactly the same way as Arthur Scargill's credibility was shot in exactly the same way.

The real issue is those who, for whatever reason, already accept these views and opinions, but do very little calmly and practically to feed into mainstream debate.

Debate is key. And is Corbyn an anti semite? Boris an Islamaphobe? No is the answer to both I expect but a lot of people that live in the goldfish bowl social media world probably think they are....

[SirWilliam]

Debate is key. And is Corbyn an anti semite? Boris an Islamaphobe? No is the answer to both I expect but a lot of people that live in the goldfish bowl social media world probably think they are....

It would appear that the populace at large are so attuned to the monosyllabic drivel of twitter and it's associated social media outlets they fail to listen/read past the first paragraph and thereby lose the gist of any subject presented in an open forum style. I have a completely different view of the world than I did 60 years ago but the problems are the same and the answers as oblique, so if we can all calmy disseminate our thoughts in a constructive manner without resorting to a blinkered diatribe then we may actually get to the 21st century before it runs out.

[newres]

It would appear that the populace at large are so attuned to the monosyllabic drivel of twitter and it's associated social media outlets they fail to listen/read past the first paragraph and thereby lose the gist of any subject presented in an open forum style. I have a completely different view of the world than I did 60 years ago but the problems are the same and the answers as oblique, so if we can all calmy disseminate our thoughts in a constructive manner without resorting to a blinkered diatribe then we may actually get to the 21st century before it runs out.

I reckon online at least, we’re beyond that. I think as well it tends to cause polarisation in debates. I expect if 1/2 dozen of the regulars on here got together to debate Brexit it would probably be interesting. That said you would have to exclude the Tommy nutter because in my opinion if you attend Tommy rallies and use terms like Antifa (shouldn’t we all be anti fascist?) as he would be an extremist.

[James_Trinder]

I expect if 1/2 dozen of the regulars on here got together to debate Brexit it would probably be interesting.

It was great fun the last few times that we met up at the pub. I would personally be well up for doing that again.

[SirWilliam]

It was great fun the last few times that we met up at the pub. I would personally be well up for doing that again.

Why is it always at a pub? Those of us who do not drink,(?), would be at a distinct disadvantage to the well oiled.

[James_Trinder]

Why is it always at a pub? Those of us who do not drink,(?), would be at a distinct disadvantage to the well oiled.

Mainly because pubs are the only social meeting places that are free to use and open on weekday evenings when most people are available. A coffee shop would be just as suitable but does not satisfy the weekday evenings requirement.

[SirWilliam]

Mainly because pubs are the only social meeting places that are free to use and open on weekday evenings when most people are available. A coffee shop would be just as suitable but does not satisfy the weekday evenings requirement.

Ok I will accept that. All we need to do is get it organised. If this forum is anything to go by it will end in tears anyway. See the headlines now, "neo natzis clash with ultra left over brexit".
I will bring my own pickaxe handle.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Ok I will accept that. All we need to do is get it organised. If this forum is anything to go by it will end in tears anyway. See the headlines now, "neo natzis clash with ultra left over brexit".
I will bring my own pickaxe handle.

I'll be representing antifa and wear a mask and carry CS gas. I can show newres how peaceful I am.😂

[SirWilliam]

I'll be representing antifa and wear a mask and carry CS gas. I can show newres how peaceful I am.😂

That's the right approach old chap, show those who have a differing view that you are not only open to dialogue but are prepared to place a comforting arm round their shoulder and ..........punch their lights out.