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post Jun 4 2017, 07:54 AM
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I log "incidents" with Microsoft.

I'm not a crazed jihadi islamic extremist.

Call it what it is. And don't use this PC cr@p.

Also how many terrorist attacks in frequency does it take to become an insurgency??
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post Jun 6 2017, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 5 2017, 11:15 PM) *
And so it turns out that indeed this lovely terrorist was holding up black flags, appearing on C4 jihadi documentaries and holding up lovely death to the infidels placards. Booger me. Turned out he was a terrorist!!! Not toooo difficult Mr Newres.... How do we spot them? Eh????

Spotting terrorists is still not as easy as you suggest. While it may be true that fanatics and sociopaths will likely have voiced their violent ideation publicly it doesn't follow that everyone voicing violence will necessarily act on it. That chap for example who murdered Jo Cox in the street might have been neutralised if he'd been rounded up with everyone else who'd ever shared a post on Facebook from Britain First or held a banner at an EDL rally, but would that have been reasonable and proportionate? I'm not saying we should ignore expressions of violence and hatred, we shouldn't, but challenging the ignorance, fear, and prejudice, and then resolving any underlying injustice is more effective at bringing peace.


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post Jun 6 2017, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 6 2017, 08:08 AM) *
Spotting terrorists is still not as easy as you suggest. While it may be true that fanatics and sociopaths will likely have voiced their violent ideation publicly it doesn't follow that everyone voicing violence will necessarily act on it. That chap for example who murdered Jo Cox in the street might have been neutralised if he'd been rounded up with everyone else who'd ever shared a post on Facebook from Britain First or held a banner at an EDL rally, but would that have been reasonable and proportionate? I'm not saying we should ignore expressions of violence and hatred, we shouldn't, but challenging the ignorance, fear, and prejudice, and then resolving any underlying injustice is more effective at bringing peace.


What would you do with the other lovely flag wavers in that C4 documentary? Tea and biscuits and ask them to be nice?
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