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Sep 25 2015, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 01:24 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) I love it when people bleat on about this pollution malarkey, they don't seem to bothered about all the pollution from the diesel lorrys bringing them their Tesco pizza cos they're to lazy to get off their *** and walk to the shops. People are bothered, but people still have to live. People go to Tesco et al. because they're open, convenient and have more choice. They're are also deceived by the cleaver selling tactics. QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 01:24 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) Or what's being blown out the back of those jet engines when they're on the way to two weeks in Benidorm, not to mention the muck that gets thrown out of the third world tractors by the people who grow their food because "we absolutely must have fresh grapes in Waitrose in January". Two week cruise round the Med anyone? Seen the **** coming out of those funnels? But exceed some arbitrary limit for some chemical compound they've never heard of before and suddenly everyone's a sodding expert on the subject. ![angry.gif](style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) Completely agree, but what we are complaining about here isn't the pollution (looking at Facebook at the moment, it just seems to be a laugh); it is the deception.
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Sep 25 2015, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 25 2015, 01:44 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) People are bothered, but people still have to live. People go to Tesco et al. because they're open, convenient and have more choice. They're are also deceived by the cleaver selling tactics. ........ Ah, so people are only bothered if it materially affects their own way of life...yes that fits. In reality, then, very few really gives a xxx about the VW problem. The Tesco example is a good one, there are other just as convenient supermarkets, but Tesco sales didn't noticeably dip when scandles broke; that took a couple of German deep discounters. That's the only reason the majority get bothered. As for VW, at least the Germans managed to keep a couple of volume car manufacturers, even if they've made a silly mistake, it's more than we've managed to do.
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I don't understand the huge moral out... Sep 24 2015, 10:48 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 10:55 AM) I don... Sep 24 2015, 11:07 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 24 2015, 12:07 PM)... Sep 24 2015, 06:26 PM On the edge Of course none of us would ever stoop so low. Tr... Sep 24 2015, 01:54 PM Rdg I own a VW Diesel (well a Skoda) and it matters no... Sep 24 2015, 02:20 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 03:20 PM) I own... Sep 24 2015, 03:03 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 24 2015, 02:54 P... Sep 24 2015, 03:06 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 24 2015, 04:06 PM)... Sep 25 2015, 08:30 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 25 2015, 09:30 A... Sep 25 2015, 09:05 AM Rdg i havent commented in the RUP debate so not guily ... Sep 24 2015, 03:54 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) i hav... Sep 24 2015, 05:55 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Simon Kirby QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) As an... Sep 24 2015, 06:31 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) On the edge QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) ........ Sep 25 2015, 08:40 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 25 2015, 09:40 A... Sep 25 2015, 09:09 AM Strafin It's like the horsemeat scandal all over agin.... Sep 24 2015, 06:26 PM spartacus I can't believe the number of class action law... Sep 24 2015, 06:29 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) motormad QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 24 2015, 07:29 PM)... Sep 25 2015, 09:57 AM spartacus QUOTE (Rdg @ Sep 24 2015, 04:54 PM) i hav... Sep 24 2015, 07:00 PM je suis Charlie SMMT issues a statement on Volkswagen emissions sc... Sep 24 2015, 08:35 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 25 2015, 10:09 AM)... Sep 25 2015, 09:43 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Simon Kirby QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 25 2015, 10:43... Sep 25 2015, 11:06 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Berkshirelad QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 25 2015, 12:06 P... Sep 25 2015, 12:01 PM Rdg Totally agree - as I said earlier, I looked at 60m... Sep 25 2015, 10:52 AM Turin Machine And we are on top of NOx emissions, that's wha... Sep 25 2015, 12:19 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Berkshirelad QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 25 2015, 01:19... Sep 25 2015, 01:42 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) motormad QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 25 2015, 01:19... Sep 25 2015, 02:27 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 25 2015, 03:27 PM) ... Sep 26 2015, 09:27 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Turin Machine QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 10:27 AM)... Sep 26 2015, 09:55 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 26 2015, 10:55... Sep 26 2015, 11:34 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Turin Machine QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 12:34 PM)... Sep 26 2015, 05:22 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 26 2015, 06:22... Sep 27 2015, 09:03 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 25 2015, 06:57 P... Sep 26 2015, 09:05 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 10:05 AM)... Sep 26 2015, 02:13 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 01... Sep 26 2015, 07:54 AM Andy Capp So you are all expert on air pollution now.
Y... Sep 25 2015, 12:38 PM je suis Charlie Organized religion has been deceiving us and conni... Sep 25 2015, 01:28 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Berkshirelad QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 02... Sep 25 2015, 01:44 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 02... Sep 26 2015, 09:07 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 10:07 AM)... Sep 26 2015, 09:57 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 26 2015, 10:57 PM) Ex... Sep 27 2015, 01:04 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 25 2015, 02... Sep 26 2015, 09:45 PM Turin Machine Anyway, thank the Lord, its all OK now. Footballs... Sep 25 2015, 11:44 PM Andy Capp It is no wonder this world like what it is: it see... Sep 26 2015, 08:59 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 26 2015, 09:59 AM)... Sep 26 2015, 09:42 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 26 2015, 10... Sep 26 2015, 09:53 AM Turin Machine He can't. Sep 26 2015, 11:41 PM Exhausted When I buy my vehicle excise duty and if in my wis... Sep 27 2015, 10:22 AM
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