First bankers, now cars makers Options

[Andy Capp]

In this alleged free market economy, people should be going to gaol.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34322016

[Rdg]

i havent commented in the RUP debate so not guily of that m'lud


I am not an avid VAG fan but am a Diesel fan, personally I would rather spend 30 mins in a sealed garage with a diesel than a petrol (think CO), yes I think cheating at tests is wrong but I also think that all manufacturers are doing it in one way or another as the environmental lobby has led to stupid restrictions and therefore unrealistic testing regimes. The race to have more "green" cars leads to perfectly serviceable cars/engines/trucks/bikes being scrapped to be replaced with newer more "efficient" models without a thought as to the resources used to make those new vehicles. The newer vehicles are so tech heavy we cant service them ourselves and even when we can you still need to get a computer (or a dealers computer) to tell the car you have given it a new oil filter so it resets the little red light. A Prius meets all the emission regs but I would bet any money that whole of life my 10yo Octavia has a far lower environmental impact even though being an older engine spec it would definitely fail the current emission regs.

As an aside best solution for future personal vehicles is in my opinion a rolling chassis with electric motors in each wheel, a battery pack and then a small generator driven by a small constant revs diesel engine which could be tuned for v.low emissions as no need to be responsive to throttle (electric motors are very torquey a would be sporty as anything) - then the engine could be replaced by hydrogen fuel cell / fusion reactor as new energy sources become available without a massive redesign or scrapping of the original vehicle - Prius is the worst of all worlds and overly complex

Personally I am more interested in asking the question "why did they feel they had to cheat the test ?" rather than "did they cheat ?"

so if you really want a comparison to the RUP issue i would say

I would be asking "why did RUP use the word Numpty ?" not "did he use the word ?"

[Andy Capp]

i havent commented in the RUP debate so not guily of that m'lud

Soz, I posted the wrong quote, it was in reply to OTE.

I think "why did they feel they had to cheat the test ?" is a very valid point.