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May 27 2009, 10:40 AM
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Thats just insane.
I take my 6 year old shopping and amongst other things buy alcohol. I would go ape if they refused to serve me it because he was with me.
I'd ring customer services there if I were you. Then ask for the Store Manager. Someone working there has either got the law totally wrong or is just inventing thier own.
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May 27 2009, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (Rose8 @ May 26 2009, 08:10 PM) My son was turned away from buying Tobacco today at Tesco, Pinchington Lane as he went there with his girlfriend!!! She isnt 18 until November. He is 18 and DOES have ID. She DOESNT smoke, never has and is disgusted by it (likewise so am i, but thats not y point here). BUT because she was simply with him, they refused him !!! Like he pointed out - maybe they should change their signs to say "PERSONS BUYING TOBACCO MUST SHOW ID AND WILL ONLY BE SERVED IF THE PERSON THEY ARE WITH IS OVER 18" - so stupid. What if he had gone up with his sister - she is 8 !!! Pathetic.
Anyone know the Managers name at Tesco? I cant find it on any websites for the store. Because you son went to Tesco’s with his girlfriend and she looked under age they might have presumed he was as well. Under the law anybody looking under age (whether they are or not) should be turned away unless they have the appropriate ID. Many kids who look like adults have been sold tobacco and the shops concerned have bas prosecuted for it. Shops are not prepared to take the risk. My daughter is 24 – she doesn’t smoke – however, she has bought alcohol and has been asked for her ID.
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May 27 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ May 27 2009, 01:25 PM) Many kids who look like adults have been sold tobacco and the shops concerned have bas prosecuted for it. Shops are not prepared to take the risk. My daughter is 24 – she doesn’t smoke – however, she has bought alcohol and has been asked for her ID. It was probably just the shop assistant just being over careful. It actually isnt the shop that gets prosecuted. It is the person who serves them. This is probably just a shop assistant being overly cautious, nothing to get in a stress about tbh
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May 27 2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ May 27 2009, 01:25 PM) . Under the law anybody looking under age (whether they are or not) should be turned away unless they have the appropriate ID. She clearly stated her son did have ID. He had ID, proved his age and they turned him away I have never read a law which states you cant serve someone if their companion doesn't look old enough - nonsense! But im sure someone will correct me on this...... I would complain to the Manager.
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May 27 2009, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (AmieB @ May 27 2009, 04:11 PM) She clearly stated her son did have ID. He had ID, proved his age and they turned him away I have never read a law which states you cant serve someone if their companion doesn't look old enough - nonsense! But im sure someone will correct me on this...... I would complain to the Manager. OK, I misread that so I apologise. But you are right; if he has ID he should have been served. Maybe the manager thought he was going to pass it on to the child?
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May 28 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ May 27 2009, 07:47 PM) Maybe the manager thought he was going to pass it on to the child? I really don't see how that is relevant in the slightest. He could just as well have been on his own and going home to ply his 10 kids all under 18 with alcohol. How on earth is the shop responsible for that? This country is going mad.
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May 28 2009, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ May 28 2009, 11:17 AM) I really don't see how that is relevant in the slightest. He could just as well have been on his own and going home to ply his 10 kids all under 18 with alcohol. How on earth is the shop responsible for that? This country is going mad. I agree that the country is going mad.... but it has done since labour got into power.
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May 29 2009, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (Rose8 @ May 28 2009, 09:06 PM) ...My whole point is my son did ALL he should, Tesco were 'out of line' and over-cautious is one thing i could say i suppose (being polite!). He went up there to purchase something, he shouldnt have been prevented from doing this. Agree with smoking or not, really ISN'T the point of this thread. I fully intend on complaining. Tesco can get prosecuted for selling to someone who intends to pass the tobacco on. People do this, so they have to bring in measures to protect themselves. I still maintain though, that it seems strange you are so incensed; if it were my son or daughter, I'd be celebrating that it become slightly harder for people to buy tobacco.
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Jun 23 2009, 11:59 AM
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The same with alcohol, i went in there a few nights ago and two guys wanted to purchase alcohol, but unfortunetly they were with two girls and they didnt have ID, so no sell. Ah well... I think its a terrible system or law. You could just leave, wait 5 minutes, come back in on your own, purchase, and your outa there with a Sort it out.
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Jun 23 2009, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Jun 23 2009, 01:33 PM) Good on the cashier. Why?
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Jun 24 2009, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jun 23 2009, 04:01 PM) ...because she was doing her job? How was she doing her job? the boy had ID to prove he was of legal age to smoke and to buy cigerettes, it his choice to smoke so why would she not go through the the sale? I have had issues when purchasing alcohol at Tescos, and have been ID several times even though I am 30. I agree they need to be sure who they are selling cigerettes and alcohol to, but should use common sense too
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Jun 24 2009, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Head @ Jun 24 2009, 08:25 AM) Isn't it up to Tesco who they sell to, provided they're not breaking the law?
I might be wrong but one has no right that Tesco or any other shop to sell them something, it's the shop's choice. It is up to any store who they sell to. However, I suppose one could challenge it in a court of law.... stores won't like bad publicity. Anyway, if they refused to serve someone they usually have good reason.
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Jun 24 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Simon @ Jun 24 2009, 09:59 AM) How was she doing her job? Tesco have a policy to challenge anyone who appears under 21 (I believe) and to anyone who is with someone under age - who they believe could be passing the items on. This is a store policy, not the sales assistant's policy. That person, therefore is simply doing their job. I find it surprising people find this so offensive when in this instant, in principle, they are attempting (albeit rather clumsily) to be a responsible retail outlet.
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Jun 24 2009, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Wicca @ Jun 24 2009, 12:33 PM) So in theory they should refuse to sell alcohol to parents shopping with their teenage kids? They reserve the right to. QUOTE (Andrea @ Jun 24 2009, 01:03 PM) Or even parents who are shopping with their infants It's absolutely ridiculous! It can be, but it isn't necessarily the cashier's fault, that's the point. Perhaps the NWN could take this story up with Tesco and see what they say.
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Jun 24 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jun 24 2009, 03:35 PM) They reserve the right to.
It can be, but it isn't necessarily the cashier's fault, that's the point. Perhaps the NWN could take this story up with Tesco and see what they say. Trouble is if they are intending to get alcohol for their 17 year old mates, and frankly Iommi which of us didn't?, they will just go to another till a little later, or another shop and leave the others waiting elsewhere. Personally I don't remember waking up on my 18th birthday knowing that I could now sensibly handle the booze I couldn't before, but I know a line has to be drawn somewhere. I say the age for all things like joining the armed forces, having the vote,the age of consent, buying ciggies or alcohol and seeing adult movies, should all be the same.
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Jun 24 2009, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:35 PM) Trouble is if they are intending to get alcohol for their 17 year old mates, and frankly Iommi which of us didn't? We all took turns... until around 15 and 3/4 when I went on the Dolphin drinking training course QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:35 PM) ...they will just go to another till a little later, or another shop and leave the others waiting elsewhere. That is true, but I think in the case of Tesco, they are covering their backs. I suspect they are simply performing due diligence. I think Tesco want to send out the message that under age drinkers and people that buy for them, is not welcome custom. QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:35 PM) Personally I don't remember waking up on my 18th birthday knowing that I could now sensibly handle the booze I couldn't before Presumably that didn't happen until, say, your mid forties! QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:35 PM) I say the age for all things like joining the armed forces, having the vote,the age of consent, buying ciggies or alcohol and seeing adult movies, should all be the same. If you'd have asked me back when it mattered, I'd have agreed with you. Now it don't matter!
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Jun 24 2009, 08:32 PM
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Jun 24 2009, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jun 24 2009, 06:19 PM) If you'd have asked me back when it mattered, I'd have agreed with you. Now it don't matter! If my daughter 17 3/4 can be allowed to have kids, work and pay tax or go to war (God forbid on items 1(yet) & 3 (ever) ) then I think she should be allowed all other things considered "grown up".
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Jun 24 2009, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 24 2009, 09:35 PM) If my daughter 17 3/4 can be allowed to have kids, work and pay tax or go to war (God forbid on items 1(yet) & 3 (ever) ) then I think she should be allowed all other things considered "grown up". She is, she's just not allowed to buy it. At the end of the day, the main sponsor of policies like these is due to underage alcohol abuse. It is a situation that is getting worse if we are to believe the TV.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Jun 24 2009, 09:35 PM) If my daughter 17 3/4 can be allowed to have kids, work and pay tax or go to war (God forbid on items 1(yet) & 3 (ever) )
then I think she should be allowed all other things considered "grown up". The government want to lower the voting age so if they regard them capable to make such a decision then, yes, I concur with you.
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Jun 25 2009, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jun 25 2009, 01:13 AM) So suddenly the Government are the voice of reason and common sense are they GMR? Half the 'fun' of youth is cheating 'the system'. It's what makes us unique when young, it's what gives us anarchy! So on the old forum it was the Government who called themselves Voice Of Reason!
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Jun 25 2009, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jun 25 2009, 01:13 AM) So suddenly the Government are the voice of reason and common sense are they GMR? Half the 'fun' of youth is cheating 'the system'. It's what makes us unique when young, it's what gives us anarchy! You seem to have a problem understanding what I say. No I don't think the government is a voice of reason, I don't also believe they should drop the voting age, however, and going by what the previous writer said, my point was they can't allow kids to do some things and then dismiss others. When you are so determined to try to have a go back you can actually miss the point of what was said. Concentrate on the debate and forget about me. Eventually it will come all right in the end my friend.
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