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Mar 26 2019, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 26 2019, 12:06 AM) It's fascinating really, I mean how in all that's holy did we ever get into this mess? It's genuinely been like watching a chimps tea party on a bad day when all the chimps decided it would be cool to **** in the teapot and wipe their ***** with the tablecloth. It's a complete and utter display of ****witterery. Loving it. subscription free comedy at it's best. Just wish Spitting Image was still around. Bit unfair on the chimp analogy as they certainly wouldn't conduct their lives in such a shambolic manner.
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Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
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Mar 26 2019, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 26 2019, 12:06 AM) It's fascinating really, I mean how in all that's holy did we ever get into this mess? It's genuinely been like watching a chimps tea party on a bad day when all the chimps decided it would be cool to **** in the teapot and wipe their ***** with the tablecloth. It's a complete and utter display of ****witterery. We got into this mess by letting the chimps vote on things that are way too complex. I thought I was relatively informed, but I've learned loads since the referendum so I include myself as a chimp.
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Mar 26 2019, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Rdg @ Mar 25 2019, 03:13 PM) How about a legally binding referendum with 2 questions (which I think are neutral in phrasing)
Qu1 Do you agree with the deal on the table (assume May's for now) Yes / No
Qu2. If and only if >50% reject the deal would you rather Leave No Deal / Remain
To top it off a further legal promise
For the next 5 General Elections a supplemental question to appear on the ballot - "Should the EU membership question be re-opened ?" with a 60% threshold to do that - that way whether we stay or go nobody can argue there is no chance of people changing later BUT it would also take it away from the normal manifestos/day to day business of the parties/MP's and stop Brexit sucking the life out of politics in the UK for the next 20 years I think that's a very neat solution.
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Mar 26 2019, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 26 2019, 10:51 AM) We got into this mess by letting the chimps vote on things that are way too complex. I thought I was relatively informed, but I've learned loads since the referendum so I include myself as a chimp. I couldn't agree more. Especially chimps who completely disregard experts and their expertise.
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Mar 26 2019, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Mar 26 2019, 12:14 PM) I couldn't agree more. Especially chimps who completely disregard experts and their expertise. The masses don't believe the experts anymore. The experts have been proved wrong too often.
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Mar 26 2019, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Mar 26 2019, 12:14 PM) I couldn't agree more. Especially chimps who completely disregard experts and their expertise. Though it would easy to label it as retro-evolution, devolution is nearer the mark. Evolution of any species is reliant on two forces. 1. The ability to control their environment for the collective good, and 2, the realisation that our position is tentative. Both of these seem to have been ignored by both sides of this farce and the resulting carnage is laid bare for all to see.
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Mar 26 2019, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 26 2019, 02:34 PM) The masses thick and climate change deniers (same thing) don't believe the experts anymore. The experts have been proved wrong too often. FTFY
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Mar 26 2019, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 26 2019, 10:51 AM) We got into this mess by letting the chimps vote on things that are way too complex. I thought I was relatively informed, but I've learned loads since the referendum so I include myself as a chimp. So I guess we should no longer have elections or referendums then? Just "clever" people deciding the best way forward...😂
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Mar 26 2019, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 26 2019, 08:04 PM) The European Parliament has backed a proposal to stop the obligatory one-hour clock change which extends daylight hours in summer EU-wide.
The proposal requires states to stop the twice-yearly clock change from 2021, and choose either permanent summer time or winter time.
Ministers will also have a say on this.
Under an EU directive, all 28 states currently switch to summer time on the last Sunday of March and back to winter time on the last Sunday of October.
The European Commission - in charge of drafting EU legislation - made the proposal last year, after a public consultation which showed 84% of respondents wanting to scrap the biannual clock changes. There were 4.6 million replies in that consultation, 70% of which were from Germans.
Thanks guys. NOW they decide to stop it. Bloody foreigners, wait until we leave before they do something beneficial. If there ever was a case of conning most of the people all of the time it's "daylight saving time" Never mind I expect JC will offer double summertime to the yooth voter.
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Mar 27 2019, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Mar 22 2019, 07:12 PM) 3.6m now. The government has rejected a petition with more than 5.78 million signatures calling for Brexit to be halted by revoking Article 50. In an official response posted on the parliamentary petitions website, the Department for Exiting the EU (DExEU) said: “This government will not revoke Article 50. Awww!
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Mar 27 2019, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Mar 27 2019, 12:55 AM) The government has rejected a petition with more than 5.78 million signatures calling for Brexit to be halted by revoking Article 50.
In an official response posted on the parliamentary petitions website, the Department for Exiting the EU (DExEU) said: “This government will not revoke Article 50.
Awww! So Mays going. Bring on the Mogg.🤣
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Mar 27 2019, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 27 2019, 05:41 PM) So Mays going. Bring on the Mogg.🤣 I'm actually laughing at this now, it's gone beyond comical, left farcical in the dust and is now approaching the realm of fantasy! Who are this bunch of bumbling incompetents? Why are they there? Bring back Oliver Cromwell!
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Mar 27 2019, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 27 2019, 09:44 PM) So they voted 8 times to make no decision. What are we paying them for?😂 Revolution!!!! Good job it's not a serious issue they have to make a decision on.
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