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SirWilliam
post Aug 16 2018, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Aug 16 2018, 11:51 AM) *
On & on it goes sad.gif

http://www.theweek.co.uk/95852/west-yorksh...sted-over-abuse

.....and another 30 males of "that community" charged in Huddersfield for depraved
crimes against young females/ trafficking.

Obviously known about in community but brushed under carpet.

One must assume in their countries of origin, this state of affairs is the status quo.


And that is the point. If those who choose to live in the UK are allowed to do so whilst still encompassing the traditions of their homeland we can not be too outraged when they cross the line of acceptable decency. "*** in Roma facite quod vultis romanus est" as the toga wearers say, but our liberal pressure groups would rather we allowed a few child groomers to operate in the name of multiculturalism than to be accused of racism.


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post Aug 16 2018, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 16 2018, 04:09 PM) *
And that is the point. If those who choose to live in the UK are allowed to do so whilst still encompassing the traditions of their homeland we can not be too outraged when they cross the line of acceptable decency. "*** in Roma facite quod vultis romanus est" as the toga wearers say, but our liberal pressure groups would rather we allowed a few child groomers to operate in the name of multiculturalism than to be accused of racism.


Obviously the censor has a degree in classics. rolleyes.gif


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post Aug 16 2018, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 16 2018, 04:09 PM) *
And that is the point. If those who choose to live in the UK are allowed to do so whilst still encompassing the traditions of their homeland we can not be too outraged when they cross the line of acceptable decency. "*** in Roma facite quod vultis romanus est" as the toga wearers say, but our liberal pressure groups would rather we allowed a few child groomers to operate in the name of multiculturalism than to be accused of racism.

I suspect a healthy amount of incompetence was more to blame.
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post Aug 16 2018, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 16 2018, 04:11 PM) *
I suspect a healthy amount of incompetence was more to blame.


No argument there, but like most crimes is it the fault of our police, or lack of them, or an increase in criminally minded citizens? We all know the difference between legal and unlawful, ( the sick bird of prey analogy is passé ), so ignorance of the law is no defence.


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post Aug 16 2018, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 16 2018, 07:23 PM) *
No argument there, but like most crimes is it the fault of our police, or lack of them, or an increase in criminally minded citizens? We all know the difference between legal and unlawful, ( the sick bird of prey analogy is passé ), so ignorance of the law is no defence.

Quite. Newres will always find someone else to blame with a crime like this. It doesn't fit his "agenda"...
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post Aug 16 2018, 08:58 PM
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Today1:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44729727

Previously:-

https://www.facebook.com/thetommyrobinson/v...83766432355616/


Anyone who thinks Tommy Robinson is a fraud, is indeed either a fraud, naive or simply one of simple Simon's simpler customers, quite simply.

Should have gone to SpecSavers.
Don't worry folks, we will not be changed, we have "Diversity barriers"

I feel sick to my stomach, I really do.


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post Aug 17 2018, 05:52 PM
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Will the "Press"(?) not get it?

Tommy yet again has destroyed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrYfOHTsYg

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post Aug 17 2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 17 2018, 06:52 PM) *
Will the "Press"(?) not get it?

Tommy yet again has destroyed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrYfOHTsYg

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Predominantly Muslim country in 20 years time?
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post Aug 18 2018, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 17 2018, 11:21 PM) *
Predominantly Muslim country in 20 years time?


Maybe, maybe not, but I wouldn't bet against being a muslim world by the year 2200. There again I would be equally surprised that planet earth has survived that long.


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post Aug 18 2018, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 17 2018, 11:21 PM) *
Predominantly Muslim country in 20 years time?

There’s plenty of morons who believe it.
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post Aug 18 2018, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 18 2018, 09:09 AM) *
Maybe, maybe not, but I wouldn't bet against being a muslim world by the year 2200. There again I would be equally surprised that planet earth has survived that long.

It was the giveaway question from an insidious and dangerous man. That being said, there does seem to be a ‘black out’ in the media and it does seem due process wasn’t followed by his imprisonment.
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post Aug 18 2018, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 18 2018, 10:23 AM) *
It was the giveaway question from an insidious and dangerous man. That being said, there does seem to be a ‘black out’ in the media and it does seem due process wasn’t followed by his imprisonment.


Difficult to disagree with that; dangerous times we live in.


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post Aug 18 2018, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2018, 03:56 PM) *
Difficult to disagree with that; dangerous times we live in.

A lot of the danger is with social media. People surround themselves with people they agree with and block anyone who has a different view. This polarises opinions further and instead of debate you inevitably get violence. All people should be listened to, even if you disagree or find the opinions they have objectionable. If you don't you end up being brainwashed.
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post Aug 18 2018, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 18 2018, 10:23 AM) *
It was the giveaway question from an insidious and dangerous man. That being said, there does seem to be a ‘black out’ in the media and it does seem due process wasn’t followed by his imprisonment.

nothing is as dangerous as someone who speaks the truth. That's all he does.
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post Aug 18 2018, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 18 2018, 07:09 PM) *
A lot of the danger is with social media. People surround themselves with people they agree with and block anyone who has a different view. This polarises opinions further and instead of debate you inevitably get violence. All people should be listened to, even if you disagree or find the opinions they have objectionable. If you don't you end up being brainwashed.

Not according to our local snot nosed, damp palmed liberal Newres.
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post Aug 18 2018, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 18 2018, 08:16 PM) *
nothing is as dangerous as someone who speaks the truth. That's all he does.

No it isn’t.
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 18 2018, 07:09 PM) *
A lot of the danger is with social media. People surround themselves with people they agree with and block anyone who has a different view. This polarises opinions further and instead of debate you inevitably get violence. All people should be listened to, even if you disagree or find the opinions they have objectionable. If you don't you end up being brainwashed.


To some extent, but not strictly true. For me, Tommy Robinson's message was drowned out by his previous unpleasant and violent antics. Indeed, in exactly the same way as Arthur Scargill's credibility was shot in exactly the same way.

The real issue is those who, for whatever reason, already accept these views and opinions, but do very little calmly and practically to feed into mainstream debate.


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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 18 2018, 08:17 PM) *
Not according to our local snot nosed, damp palmed liberal Newres.

It is about what we want out of life: stay in the middle ages or help to progress.
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post Aug 18 2018, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 18 2018, 10:20 AM) *
There’s plenty of morons who believe it.

I should imagine that those who do or would wish are mainly Muslim?
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post Aug 18 2018, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2018, 08:52 PM) *
To some extent, but not strictly true. For me, Tommy Robinson's message was drowned out by his previous unpleasant and violent antics. Indeed, in exactly the same way as Arthur Scargill's credibility was shot in exactly the same way.

The real issue is those who, for whatever reason, already accept these views and opinions, but do very little calmly and practically to feed into mainstream debate.


Debate is key. And is Corbyn an anti semite? Boris an Islamaphobe? No is the answer to both I expect but a lot of people that live in the goldfish bowl social media world probably think they are....
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