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Aug 3 2018, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 3 2018, 10:01 PM) Jeez, you sound like a Southern redneck blaming Elvis Presley’s hip gyrations.
Anyway I think it’s scary that you hold up a thug like that as a hero. He is no hero. He should be judged in an unbiased way. He was not by this patricular judge. Hence the decision. You by the way sound like you read the independent and guardian and follow diane abbot, owen jones and david lammy on twitter. Did you cry when brexit happened and trump won?😂 I bet you even have #fbpe and a european flag in your twitter handle. SAD.
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Aug 4 2018, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 3 2018, 10:39 PM) He is no hero. He should be judged in an unbiased way. He was not by this patricular judge. Hence the decision. You by the way sound like you read the independent and guardian and follow diane abbot, owen jones and david lammy on twitter. Did you cry when brexit happened and trump won?😂 I bet you even have #fbpe and a european flag in your twitter handle. SAD. Well if he's innocent...... However we know he's not.
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Aug 4 2018, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 4 2018, 07:37 AM) Well if he's innocent......
However we know he's not. Good job we have a legal system then and don't rely on the law as defined by newres.
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Aug 4 2018, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 4 2018, 08:03 AM) Good job we have a legal system then and don't rely on the law as defined by newres. Did he not broadcast the footage then? He’s guilty it’s just that correct process may not have been followed. His legal team is bankrolled by extremists across the world.
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Aug 4 2018, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 4 2018, 01:36 PM) I think we should wait until the appeal is heard before jumping to conclusions. This trait of insisting legal process and formal enquiry can only deliver populist judgements is quite disturbing. It's things like this which have turned our society into a selfish and illiterate mob. Over the past few years, a good number of foreign visitors have remarked that it seems like the English have no pride in their nation or institutions. I've never felt able to refute that. It’s not jumping to conclusions to say that he broadcast contrary to a court order. It’s irrefutable. What remains to be seen is if he was harshly judged. Given his long history of criminal activity the sentence doesn’t seem disproportionate. But I’ve no idea what the sentencing guidelines are for what he did. As you say, we shall have to wait and see but I can’t deny being glad that such a disgusting person is behind bars.
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Aug 4 2018, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 4 2018, 03:09 PM) It’s not jumping to conclusions to say that he broadcast contrary to a court order. It’s irrefutable. What remains to be seen is if he was harshly judged. Given his long history of criminal activity the sentence doesn’t seem disproportionate. But I’ve no idea what the sentencing guidelines are for what he did. As you say, we shall have to wait and see but I can’t deny being glad that such a disgusting person is behind bars. I've yet to see you comment like that on any islamic terrorist. Says a lot. Making facebook live streams seems to be more upsetting ro you than mass murderers. But then they only do it because we are nasty white western people eh? In fact its probably our fault in your twisted mind.
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Aug 4 2018, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 4 2018, 03:15 PM) I've yet to see you comment like that on any islamic terrorist. Says a lot. Making facebook live streams seems to be more upsetting ro you than mass murderers. But then they only do it because we are nasty white western people eh? In fact its probably our fault in your twisted mind. Well I do think people that commit acts like the Manchester bombing should be behind bars, but generally they kill themselves in the process. But I do think what's happening is our own fault because of our policies in the Middle East.
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Aug 4 2018, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 4 2018, 06:35 PM) Well I do think people that commit acts like the Manchester bombing should be behind bars, but generally they kill themselves in the process.
But I do think what's happening is our own fault because of our policies in the Middle East. Doubt if many would disagree too much with that. Our Middle East policy (if you can call it that) has always been a mess.
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Aug 4 2018, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 4 2018, 06:35 PM) Well I do think people that commit acts like the Manchester bombing should be behind bars, but generally they kill themselves in the process.
But I do think what's happening is our own fault because of our policies in the Middle East. Yep. Thought so. Terrorist apologist. We did wrong. Blair and his cronies were just poodles. But 2 wrongs dont make a right. You almost excuse attrocities.Disappointing human being.
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Aug 4 2018, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 4 2018, 03:09 PM) It’s not jumping to conclusions to say that he broadcast contrary to a court order. It’s irrefutable. What remains to be seen is if he was harshly judged. Given his long history of criminal activity the sentence doesn’t seem disproportionate. But I’ve no idea what the sentencing guidelines are for what he did. As you say, we shall have to wait and see but I can’t deny being glad that such a disgusting person is behind bars. nothing to with how he was judged, the judicial process was abused. everybody from your bearded child abuser upwards deserves a fair trial, its called due process, TR was denied his fair process. this was the basis of the appeal and subsequent freeing. the libs need to pay heed to the law.
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Aug 15 2018, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 4 2018, 08:42 PM) nothing to with how he was judged, the judicial process was abused. everybody from your bearded child abuser upwards deserves a fair trial, its called due process, TR was denied his fair process. this was the basis of the appeal and subsequent freeing. the libs need to pay heed to the law. More John Smiths accused I see... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45193514
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Aug 15 2018, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 15 2018, 03:14 PM) Eric Smith from Burton on Trent has been removed from the what was never a headline. It was a side issue, now defunct.
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Aug 16 2018, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 4 2018, 08:42 PM) nothing to with how he was judged, the judicial process was abused. everybody from your bearded child abuser upwards deserves a fair trial, its called due process, TR was denied his fair process. this was the basis of the appeal and subsequent freeing. the libs need to pay heed to the law. While in the process or possibly jeopardising a fair trail.
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Aug 16 2018, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 16 2018, 08:42 AM) Bit biased there TDH! What about Catholic priests? I must admit, unpleasant it might be, but TDH is right to sign this up. The issue we face is that we've hidden our principles for far too long under a blanket of political correctness. What about Catholic priests and the rest. BBC disc jockies, school teachers, Scout leaders, Football trainers, children's home workers, etc, etc? They all belonged to groupings who have wholly accepted the wrongs and are now at great pains to prevent a reoccurrence. So, why are some groupings totally immune to censure or criticisim and indeed left even to support the deviants? Why, even when the evidence is overwhelming are Asylum, Muslim and Traveller/Gypsy groupings treated with such deference?
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Aug 16 2018, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 16 2018, 08:42 AM) Bit biased there TDH! What about Catholic priests? Just because they have Italian sounding names one must not assume they are card carrying catholics any more than members of the muslim brotherhood who congregate at the school gate are interested in anything more than traffic control.
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Aug 16 2018, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 16 2018, 09:11 AM) Just because they have Italian sounding names one must not assume they are card carrying catholics any more than members of the muslim brotherhood who congregate at the school gate are interested in anything more than traffic control. Very balanced and diverse view there Sir W. Well done! P.S. I believe that the Pope IS catholic.
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Aug 16 2018, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 16 2018, 09:00 AM) I must admit, unpleasant it might be, but TDH is right to sign this up. The issue we face is that we've hidden our principles for far too long under a blanket of political correctness.
What about Catholic priests and the rest. BBC disc jockies, school teachers, Scout leaders, Football trainers, children's home workers, etc, etc? They all belonged to groupings who have wholly accepted the wrongs and are now at great pains to prevent a reoccurrence.
So, why are some groupings totally immune to censure or criticisim and indeed left even to support the deviants? Why, even when the evidence is overwhelming are Asylum, Muslim and Traveller/Gypsy groupings treated with such deference? Quire right OTE but I think you may have missed the sarcasm in my reply!
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