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je suis Charlie
Just like to congratulate Laura and her whole team on a well fought campaign and I hope she can help bring the party back to the middle ground and fight not just for the party ideals but also for the people she is meant to represent. Well done.
Mr Brown
I'll willingly second that.
Turin Machine
Conservatives, winning here.
James_Trinder
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 13 2019, 07:18 PM) *
I hope she can help bring the party back to the middle ground and fight not just for the party ideals but also for the people she is meant to represent.


I think that is something that we can all agree upon.
Andy Capp
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Dec 18 2019, 03:12 PM) *
I think that is something that we can all agree upon.

Yes.

However, 'she lost' some of her majority, but I think a teddy bear would have polled about the same in Newbury as she did.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 18 2019, 06:04 PM) *
Yes.

However, 'she lost' some of her majority, but I think a teddy bear would have polled about the same in Newbury as she did.

So what happened to the 'youth quake'? or all the 'voiced support for the other parties? Look at the candidate Labour put forward, scruffy unshaved kid, shows they didn't even try. But yes, a true blue seat.
newres
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 18 2019, 07:29 PM) *
So what happened to the 'youth quake'? or all the 'voiced support for the other parties? Look at the candidate Labour put forward, scruffy unshaved kid, shows they didn't even try. But yes, a true blue seat.

A teacher in a local secondary school or a former deb. rolleyes.gif
James_Trinder
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 18 2019, 06:04 PM) *
Yes.

However, 'she lost' some of her majority, but I think a teddy bear would have polled about the same in Newbury as she did.



Yes, a dead badger with a Conservative badge would probably have gained approximately the same share of the vote in my opinion.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 19 2019, 08:48 AM) *
A teacher in a local secondary school or a former deb. rolleyes.gif

Never mind newres. All your predictions about a 2nd referendum and the end of Brexit.. all spot on as usual...😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 19 2019, 04:50 PM) *
Never mind newres. All your predictions about a 2nd referendum and the end of Brexit.. all spot on as usual...😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍


And they still can not see. Oh well least the pension is "reasonably" safe.
Andy Capp
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 19 2019, 04:50 PM) *
Never mind newres. All your predictions about a 2nd referendum and the end of Brexit.. all spot on as usual...😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

The irony of it probably being down to Labour! tongue.gif
newres
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 19 2019, 06:28 PM) *
The irony of it probably being down to Labour! tongue.gif

Although I'm not a Labour member or voter.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 19 2019, 04:50 PM) *
Never mind newres. All your predictions about a 2nd referendum and the end of Brexit.. all spot on as usual...😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

Ironic really, because it was within the grasp of those who wanted one. They just had to refuse the election. But history now. It's time to move on. We are where we are and we just have to hope Johnson acts responsibly since all Tory MPs swore an oath of allegiance.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 19 2019, 10:00 PM) *
Ironic really, because it was within the grasp of those who wanted one. They just had to refuse the election. But history now. It's time to move on. We are where we are and we just have to hope Johnson acts responsibly since all Tory MPs swore an oath of allegiance.

Interesting perspective. You only want an election if the result is what you want? Democracy eh? What a sh1t.... and before you join the "but 52 percent voted for pro remain parties" that is rubbish. 30 percent (or 3 million voters) of pro leave voters voted Labour anyway. It's in the DNA. So as even Verhoftwat admitted it's over.


In other news it's good to see some commie lefty MPs taking it well...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/stat...118538433433600

Turin Machine
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Dec 19 2019, 01:41 PM) *
Yes, a dead badger with a Conservative badge would probably have gained approximately the same share of the vote in my opinion.

I quite agree, the irony there of course is that a dead badger would be infinitely more use and infinitely less damaging than a labour candidate.
Turin Machine
Quick question, did all those people who have been returning Labour MP'S since the dawn of time suddenly become thick when they voted Tory? Or, were they thick when they were voting labour, just didn't know it. Answers please on a self addressed polling card.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Dec 20 2019, 12:08 AM) *
Quick question, did all those people who have been returning Labour MP'S since the dawn of time suddenly become thick when they voted Tory? Or, were they thick when they were voting labour, just didn't know it. Answers please on a self addressed polling card.


Emily Thornberry thinks so, allegedly... not sure who to believe, lady "rochester" nugee or caroline flint???🤣🤣🤣
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 19 2019, 10:50 PM) *
Interesting perspective. You only want an election if the result is what you want? Democracy eh? What a sh1t.... and before you join the "but 52 percent voted for pro remain parties" that is rubbish. 30 percent (or 3 million voters) of pro leave voters voted Labour anyway. It's in the DNA. So as even Verhoftwat admitted it's over.


In other news it's good to see some commie lefty MPs taking it well...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/stat...118538433433600

I'm actually bored of these conversations hence why I've been absent of late. Let's just hope Johnson doesn't **** the country now.
Mr Brown
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 20 2019, 07:02 AM) *
I'm actually bored of these conversations hence why I've been absent of late. Let's just hope Johnson doesn't **** the country now.


Understandable; I suspect the day of the 'on-line forum' is over. The other Newbury Forum seems to have shrunk back even further and that one still seems to attract new members. It's two years since this forum was graced by anyone new. Doubtless, getting NWNs in house IT support to switch the thing off would be more trouble than it's worth, so they'll just let it wither away and some would say so what.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Dec 20 2019, 09:04 AM) *
Understandable; I suspect the day of the 'on-line forum' is over. The other Newbury Forum seems to have shrunk back even further and that one still seems to attract new members. It's two years since this forum was graced by anyone new. Doubtless, getting NWNs in house IT support to switch the thing off would be more trouble than it's worth, so they'll just let it wither away and some would say so what.


Shame really as it allows one to throw an opinion into the wider audience from the comfort of an armchair. The problem has been with this, and I guess similar forums, is the intransigence of some of the contributors. I may believe that black is the new blue but I do not expect others to agree until the case is proven though by the same token if someone says it's actually orange then I will listen.

Better wish everyone a merry xmas while the chance is exists . cool.gif
Biker1
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 19 2019, 11:00 PM) *
Ironic really, because it was within the grasp of those who wanted one.

We've just had one! Another one!!
This election was all about Brexit.
newres
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 20 2019, 10:45 AM) *
We've just had one! Another one!!
This election was all about Brexit.

Oh well Leave lost then as they had less than 50% of the vote. With Corbyn as leader, the vote could never be just about Brexit. Unfortunately.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 20 2019, 12:05 PM) *
Oh well Leave lost then as they had less than 50% of the vote. With Corbyn as leader, the vote could never be just about Brexit. Unfortunately.


Safe to say that this was the election Corbyn lost as opposed to a Johnson win. Even after such a humiliating defeat they still can't see why it all went wrong, which says an awful lot about their potential governing ability.
Mr Brown
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 20 2019, 10:45 AM) *
We've just had one! Another one!!
This election was all about Brexit.


Spot on!

In spite of three years worth of remain enthusiasts explaining why Brexit would be a horrific mistake the Party to staunchly maintain its Brexit position and made it its flagship policy wiped the board. What don't the LibDems and Labour understand about public opinion? The Country, outside the metropolitan bubble, simply wants out of Europe.

TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Dec 20 2019, 09:56 PM) *
Spot on!

In spite of three years worth of remain enthusiasts explaining why Brexit would be a horrific mistake the Party to staunchly maintain its Brexit position and made it its flagship policy wiped the board. What don't the LibDems and Labour understand about public opinion? The Country, outside the metropolitan bubble, simply wants out of Europe.


Quite and all the bollox about including labour as remain is just that...a lot of labour leave voters would have still voted labour.

So my guess 52% leave... funny that it's almost like people are not persuaded by tosh on social media... (and newres)
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 20 2019, 11:16 PM) *
Quite and all the bollox about including labour as remain is just that...a lot of labour leave voters would have still voted labour.

So my guess 52% leave... funny that it's almost like people are not persuaded by tosh on social media... (and newres)

West Berks voted Remain.
SirWilliam
All this rhetoric over leave or remain is now a pointless exercise. The tories now have a mandate from the electorate to do what ever they want and one of those "wants" is to leave the EU. By the time the next GE is upon us, ('24), we will be well and truly out so even if we then elect a pro membership government it will take years to re-join. Something the snp should bear in mind if the persist in their self destruct route of independence at any cost.
Biker1
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 22 2019, 08:00 AM) *
West Berks voted Remain.

In the 2016 referendum yes.
Not, it would appear, in the 2019 "people's vote"!
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