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TallDarkAndHandsome
I'll kick off. Con majority of 43.

Andy Capp
A new Labour leader.
misc
Who's our CON candidate, assuming Benyon sticks to his word and doesn't stand?
SirWilliam
QUOTE (misc @ Oct 30 2019, 12:04 PM) *
Who's our CON candidate, assuming Benyon sticks to his word and doesn't stand?


ME......Why not? To be honest if my bloody dog wore a blue rosette it would be voted in. Actually come to think of it my "bloody" mut is a socialist as he expects me to feed him, he hogs the fire and contributes sod all to the benefit of the country. The Limp (non) Dems are on the front foot as a useless piece of recycling material landed on my mat on Monday evening, which even the canine companion ignored but, whoever or whatever one thing is certain, it won't solve a darned thing.

TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 30 2019, 07:47 PM) *
ME......Why not? To be honest if my bloody dog wore a blue rosette it would be voted in. Actually come to think of it my "bloody" mut is a socialist as he expects me to feed him, he hogs the fire and contributes sod all to the benefit of the country. The Limp (non) Dems are on the front foot as a useless piece of recycling material landed on my mat on Monday evening, which even the canine companion ignored but, whoever or whatever one thing is certain, it won't solve a darned thing.

The illiberal undemocrats have even got a bl00dy van going round. Why would I vote for a woman whose husbands company benefits considerably from ahem "EU contributions"...??? and what about the environment with all this election crap being taken from the letterbox to the bin..
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 30 2019, 08:35 PM) *
The illiberal undemocrats have even got a bl00dy van going round. Why would I vote for a woman whose husbands company benefits considerably from ahem "EU contributions"...??? and what about the environment with all this election crap being taken from the letterbox to the bin..


Least it opens up the debate to more topics than brexit. Never really understood the workings of a campaign manager's brain that lead him to the conclusion that the electorate will be influenced by a sheet of propaganda worthy of Paul Joseph Goebbels, but at least it will save the party activists the unsavory task of knocking doors on a cold November evening.
je suis Charlie
We're giving the Tories as evens at the moment. Although Keith Vaz hasn't helped Labour image.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 31 2019, 09:36 AM) *
We're giving the Tories as evens at the moment. Although Keith Vaz hasn't helped Labour image.


If body language is anything to go by Labour know they are going to lose. Little doubt if they had a half decent leader the job would be there for the taking, but the traditional labour voter will probably abstain other than vote for Corbyn even though the left view him as the messiah. Smart money goes on a hanged (sic) parliament and 5 more years of treading mud.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 31 2019, 09:36 AM) *
We're giving the Tories as evens at the moment. Although Keith Vaz hasn't helped Labour image.

Evens?

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics

1/6 with the bookies...
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 31 2019, 06:08 PM) *


Interpret how you like but we never hear of a bookmaker getting the sums wrong. A fiver each way (lose or lose badly) on the Limp (non) Dems at 66/1 must be worth a punt. Smart money pointing to a high turnout is quite interesting but a foot of snow may change that.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 31 2019, 07:08 PM) *


Conservative Majority 10/11, pretty much evens.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 31 2019, 07:24 PM) *
Conservative Majority 10/11, pretty much evens.

Make Britain Great Again.
Donald told me.🤣🤣🤣
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 31 2019, 10:08 PM) *
Make Britain Great Again.
Donald told me.🤣🤣🤣


Guess a few bods in tory high command headed for the gas oven when that helpful comment was first heard. Though what he said is, in essence, true it does grate the molars when "johnny foreigner" gets involved in our countries affairs.
Nice to see that JC is offering us the world and those nasty middle class home owners are going to pay for it. Let's hear it for the working man say I. rolleyes.gif
James_Trinder
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 30 2019, 08:35 PM) *
Why would I vote for a woman whose husbands company benefits considerably from ahem "EU contributions"...???



You wouldn't be. You would be casting your vote to select the MP who represents the Newbury constituency in the House of Commons. The majority of prospective parliamentary candidates are affiliated to a political party but only members of that political party are entitled to elect the leader of that party.
MontyPython
I predict we'll get another 600+ self serving people meeting in a big hall in Westminster before Christmas.

Anyone disagree?
James_Trinder
QUOTE (MontyPython @ Nov 1 2019, 11:55 AM) *
I predict we'll get another 600+ self serving people meeting in a big hall in Westminster before Christmas.

Anyone disagree?



I would disagree with that statement. Most MPs are self serving as you correctly point out but there are a few who genuinely care about their constituencies and their constituents and will try to represent their concerns to the best of their ability in Parliament. I have to agree that there are not many of those but they do exist.
James_Trinder
QUOTE (misc @ Oct 30 2019, 11:04 AM) *
Who's our CON candidate, assuming Benyon sticks to his word and doesn't stand?


We'll find out on 10th November:

https://www.conservativehome.com/parliament...ary-intake.html
MontyPython
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Nov 1 2019, 12:06 PM) *
I would disagree with that statement. Most MPs are self serving as you correctly point out but there are a few who genuinely care about their constituencies and their constituents and will try to represent their concerns to the best of their ability in Parliament. I have to agree that there are not many of those but they do exist.


Thats why I didn't say all smile.gif
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (MontyPython @ Nov 1 2019, 02:28 PM) *
Thats why I didn't say all smile.gif

Labour are going to introduce a new tax bracket for anyone earning over 80k. Coincidentally MPs salary is £79,468.
My guess is the next time MPS get a rise the band will change as well...😂😂😂

MontyPython
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2019, 03:31 PM) *
Labour are going to introduce a new tax bracket for anyone earning over 80k. Coincidentally MPs salary is £79,468.
My guess is the next time MPS get a rise the band will change as well...😂😂😂


Surely they can claim the disconnect between the Words "Salary" and "Earning" biggrin.gif
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2019, 03:31 PM) *
Labour are going to introduce a new tax bracket for anyone earning over 80k. Coincidentally MPs salary is £79,468.
My guess is the next time MPS get a rise the band will change as well...😂😂😂


Some p***k from the shadow front bench stated quite openly today that UK billionaires will be banned under a labour government, with their "ill gotten" gains distributed to the needy. What planet are these people from? Anyway I have a mini digger arriving on hire tomorrow so I can hive my savings out of sight in the back garden. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 1 2019, 04:42 PM) *
Some p***k from the shadow front bench stated quite openly today that UK billionaires will be banned under a labour government, with their "ill gotten" gains distributed to the needy. What planet are these people from? Anyway I have a mini digger arriving on hire tomorrow so I can hive my savings out of sight in the back garden. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Wonder what will happen when all the business leaders relocate? I wonder...tax take will go down and the needy will be worse off. I for one am not doing PAYE under Labour. Contracting for me. Had so many offers but have always resisted (as I like to feel paying over 3k in tax a month helps). Hey ho.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2019, 04:56 PM) *
Wonder what will happen when all the business leaders relocate? I wonder...tax take will go down and the needy will be worse off. I for one am not doing PAYE under Labour. Contracting for me. Had so many offers but have always resisted (as I like to feel paying over 3k in tax a month helps). Hey ho.


Labour have always f****d the economy up, but it usually happens after they have been in office for at least 6 months. These imbeciles aren't even going to try and do it right. Hold on to your hats boys and girls cos it may get a bit choppy in the North Sea.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 1 2019, 05:54 PM) *
Labour have always f****d the economy up, but it usually happens after they have been in office for at least 6 months. These imbeciles aren't even going to try and do it right. Hold on to your hats boys and girls cos it may get a bit choppy in the North Sea.

A whole new generation will be Conservatives after a JC led government. That's for certain...
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 1 2019, 04:42 PM) *
Some p***k from the shadow front bench stated quite openly today that UK billionaires will be banned under a labour government, with their "ill gotten" gains distributed to the needy. What planet are these people from? Anyway I have a mini digger arriving on hire tomorrow so I can hive my savings out of sight in the back garden. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisismone...e-gift-tax.html

Best sign over the deeds of Chez Will to the kids before Labour come in fella. 125K? FFS...
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 2 2019, 02:48 PM) *
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisismone...e-gift-tax.html

Best sign over the deeds of Chez Will to the kids before Labour come in fella. 125K? FFS...


The real concern is that people with such a poor grasp of basic economics consider themselves qualified to run UK PLC. Still let the yoof vote prevail and they can pay the piper because I am getting too old to care.
newres
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 2 2019, 10:46 PM) *
The real concern is that people with such a poor grasp of basic economics consider themselves qualified to run UK PLC. Still let the yoof vote prevail and they can pay the piper because I am getting too old to care.

The irony of this with the thick gammons calling for a crash out of the EU.
Strafin
The only prediction I will make is that the Brexit Party will get zero seats.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 6 2019, 01:44 PM) *
The irony of this with the thick gammons calling for a crash out of the EU.

"thick gammons" so newres and all that is wrong with remainers attitudes. #sad
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2019, 08:22 PM) *
A whole new generation will be Conservatives after a JC led government. That's for certain...

Umm, I've actually placed a bet on Labour, no overall majority. Win, win. There's always money to be made.!😁
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 9 2019, 10:31 PM) *
"thick gammons" so newres and all that is wrong with remainers attitudes. #sad

Tattoos and beer bellies donít generally make for economic experts in my opinion.
Biker1
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2019, 09:28 AM) *
Tattoos and beer bellies donít generally make for economic experts in my opinion.

And that's just the women!! tongue.gif
newres
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 10 2019, 09:38 AM) *
And that's just the women!! tongue.gif

biggrin.gif
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2019, 08:28 AM) *
Tattoos and beer bellies donít generally make for economic experts in my opinion.

Economic experts? Like this fella?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Byrne

😂😂
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 10 2019, 11:03 AM) *
Economic experts? Like this fella?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Byrne

😂😂

If JC gets in I'm renting a field, make a killing once the BOE goes over to the potato standard. And get used to drinking herbal tea, cos all proper tea will be theft!
MontyPython
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2019, 08:28 AM) *
Tattoos and beer bellies donít generally make for economic experts in my opinion.


I thought youngsters were mainly pro remain? They seem to have the most tattoos these days and many are well on the way to having beer bellies too!

TallDarkAndHandsome
I see Nige has stood his troops down. Should be 50+ Con majority now. Let me guess, remainers will demand another vote as they wont like the outcome. Illegal vote! Its Russia innit!😂😂😂😂😂
TallDarkAndHandsome
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/britis...uencies/newbury

Newbury

1/7 Cons
5/1 Libs

Might be worth a cheeky punt on Libs..
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 11 2019, 05:01 PM) *
I see Nige has stood his troops down. Should be 50+ Con majority now. Let me guess, remainers will demand another vote as they wont like the outcome. Illegal vote! Its Russia innit!😂😂😂😂😂

Won't make a massive difference over all.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 11 2019, 07:12 PM) *
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/britis...uencies/newbury

Newbury

1/7 Cons
5/1 Libs

Might be worth a cheeky punt on Libs..

Always worth a punt, But we do now have a superb candidate with pedigree.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 11 2019, 07:55 PM) *
Always worth a punt, But we do now have a superb candidate with pedigree.

A remainer that is towing the party line (for now). I understand whty she has been picked and is obviously an intelligent person.

I do hope though that she doesn't change her mind after the vote and becomes a thorn in the side. Here's hoping! A politician that does what they say...
SirWilliam
You know it is getting nasty when one party blames the other for the flooding in Yorkshire. None of them are prepared to stand up and point the finger at those who have encouraged development along the river basin which can only disrupt the natural water flow to the detriment of all. Then of course we have the Libs and Greens, (as in naive), blaming climate change and suggesting by staying chained to the EU we somehow will be "saved". Extreme weather conditions were more prevalent during the 18th century, (which predates the industrial revolution), but no one bothers to research these facts before jumping on the current bandwagon.

Incidentally if you want to see the effects of climate change take a look at the Carnian Pluvial event which was the result of an increase in CO2 and not a single human in sight. (Thankfully). Now that was proper rainfall. laugh.gif
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 12 2019, 07:29 PM) *
You know it is getting nasty when one party blames the other for the flooding in Yorkshire. None of them are prepared to stand up and point the finger at those who have encouraged development along the river basin which can only disrupt the natural water flow to the detriment of all. Then of course we have the Libs and Greens, (as in naive), blaming climate change and suggesting by staying chained to the EU we somehow will be "saved". Extreme weather conditions were more prevalent during the 18th century, (which predates the industrial revolution), but no one bothers to research these facts before jumping on the current bandwagon.

Incidentally if you want to see the effects of climate change take a look at the Carnian Pluvial event which was the result of an increase in CO2 and not a single human in sight. (Thankfully). Now that was proper rainfall. laugh.gif



If always amazes me that people buy property in places called "fishlake" or even locally "two rivers way"....its almost like the clue is in the name....
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 11 2019, 08:47 PM) *
A remainer that is towing the party line (for now). I understand whty she has been picked and is obviously an intelligent person.

I do hope though that she doesn't change her mind after the vote and becomes a thorn in the side. Here's hoping! A politician that does what they say...

People are allowed to change their mind you know. And if Boris attempts a no deal in 2020 should his deal pass, you'll see it blocked again. The country comes before the party.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 13 2019, 01:34 PM) *
People are allowed to change their mind you know. And if Boris attempts a no deal in 2020 should his deal pass, you'll see it blocked again. The country comes before the party.

That depends if they are actually changing minds or just lying to try and get elected...I mean its almost like all 3 main parties are promising spending plans they won't deliver...
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 13 2019, 01:34 PM) *
People are allowed to change their mind you know. And if Boris attempts a no deal in 2020 should his deal pass, you'll see it blocked again. The country comes before the party.

he doesn't need 'a deal' he needs a healthy majority then he can do what he wants.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 13 2019, 07:00 PM) *
he doesn't need 'a deal' he needs a healthy majority then he can do what he wants.

It's called parliamentary democracy. Remainers have been banging on about it since the last election. Expect the fire of remoaners will turn to "proportional representation" if he get a majority... oh and another election cos this one was fixed by Russians. 😂😂
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 13 2019, 07:49 PM) *
It's called parliamentary democracy. Remainers have been banging on about it since the last election. Expect the fire of remoaners will turn to "proportional representation" if he get a majority... oh and another election cos this one was fixed by Russians. 😂😂

I suspect if he inches close to no deal, that healthy majority will disappear. The Tories would take decades to recover it no deal lived up to just about everyone's predictions.
James_Trinder
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 13 2019, 07:00 PM) *
he doesn't need 'a deal' he needs a healthy majority then he can do what he wants.


I'm sure that he will use every trick in the book to obtain that healthy majority as well.
newres
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Nov 14 2019, 10:33 AM) *
I'm sure that he will use every trick in the book to obtain that healthy majority as well.

Like this?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/n...-plan-near-12tn

Lies worked in the referendum so they are obviously using the same tactic.
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