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Strafin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48714864

Anyone seen the video of the alleged assault? I think he was rather heavy handed and clearly by his face wanted to hurt the protester, however should she have been there in the first place?

If Farage is insistent that his milkshake attacker and Jo Brand should be prosecuted, surely then so should Mr Field?

Any thoughts?
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 21 2019, 09:59 AM) *
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48714864

Anyone seen the video of the alleged assault? I think he was rather heavy handed and clearly by his face wanted to hurt the protester, however should she have been there in the first place?

If Farage is insistent that his milkshake attacker and Jo Brand should be prosecuted, surely then so should Mr Field?

Any thoughts?

My initial thoughts,
She was in effect trespassing,
Bouncers in nightclubs do worse,
They were trying to get a reaction by their actions,
Mr milkshake was in a public place,
The fat, unfunny lefty was inciting violence,
It should be looked at by the CPS to see if there are any grounds for prosecution, as much for his future career as anything. Fairs fair.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 21 2019, 10:08 AM) *
My initial thoughts,
She was in effect trespassing,
Bouncers in nightclubs do worse,
They were trying to get a reaction by their actions,
Mr milkshake was in a public place,
The fat, unfunny lefty was inciting violence,
It should be looked at by the CPS to see if there are any grounds for prosecution, as much for his future career as anything. Fairs fair.

Didn't look like unnecessary force was used, they claim it was rediculous to claim she might have been armed, no, it wasn't. If you don't want to be manhandled out of a private event you've just gatecrashed, don't go. Should have kicked them all up the ***.
je suis Charlie
I further note that one complainant shrieks, 'he should be charged with violence against women', which tends to make a mockery of the twin claims of equality for women and my favourite for today, 'gender isn't binary'. Can't have it both ways sweetie. ����
SirWilliam
If I was the organisers I would be asking serious questions of the security bods,(if any). Had this been a terrorist infiltration, (and no they don't all have beards and scream "allahu akbar"), we would not be criticising a man who who stood up when most in the room just looked on.
These idiots do their cause no good at all and only add credence to the few who deny we have a climate problem.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 21 2019, 11:55 AM) *
If I was the organisers I would be asking serious questions of the security bods,(if any). Had this been a terrorist infiltration, (and no they don't all have beards and scream "allahu akbar"), we would not be criticising a man who who stood up when most in the room just looked on.
These idiots do their cause no good at all and only add credence to the few who deny we have a climate problem.


A. 40 people came in through a fire door that had been opened by an infiltrator
B. They then threw devices under the tables of the people at the event. These devices turned out to be rape alarms.
C. They were lucky they were not shot. In the USA they would have been.

Idiots.
newres
Terrible. Upsetting the gammon.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 21 2019, 08:25 PM) *
Terrible. Upsetting the gammon.

You must love gammon. You keep going on about it.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 21 2019, 10:09 PM) *
You must love gammon. You keep going on about it.

Gammon fetish. Every thing looks like Gammon to him. So sad. Still, with the right treatment, who knows? might get him down to Back Bacon with help from professionals.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 21 2019, 10:33 PM) *
Gammon fetish. Every thing looks like Gammon to him. So sad. Still, with the right treatment, who knows? might get him down to Back Bacon with help from professionals.

I bet pigs run a mile when they see him. Perhaps he has a Cameron type "fetish"?🤣
Turin Machine
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 21 2019, 10:09 PM) *
You must love gammon. You keep going on about it.

He actually thinks he's being clever. Shame he has neither wit not wisdom.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 21 2019, 04:14 PM) *
A. 40 people came in through a fire door that had been opened by an infiltrator
B. They then threw devices under the tables of the people at the event. These devices turned out to be rape alarms.
C. They were lucky they were not shot. In the USA they would have been.

Idiots.

What makes me smile is that the UK is a word leader in its reduction of CO2, well on target to meet its target of zero carbon emissions by 2050, so where does Tommy Fckwit demo? The UK. Wonderful. Let's see them go to China and barge their way into a meeting of the council ministers, let's see how many we never see again! Boring lefty morons.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 21 2019, 10:56 PM) *
What makes me smile is that the UK is a word leader in its reduction of CO2, well on target to meet its target of zero carbon emissions by 2050, so where does Tommy Fckwit demo? The UK. Wonderful. Let's see them go to China and barge their way into a meeting of the council ministers, let's see how many we never see again! Boring lefty morons.

Quite. I do hope they all live zero carbon lives. I would guarantee you though that my carbon emissions are less than these so called protesters.

I don't have a car
I travel to work on an electric train and walk to the station
I use an energy supplier that is 100 percent green
I eat beef rarely
I try and avoid all plastic

I do wonder if these people do the same? And me a gammony old sod...
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 21 2019, 10:09 PM) *
You must love gammon. You keep going on about it.

Did you see the fury on his face? Thatís why I used the term. Field is a disgrace. And note too the difference in treatment received by the large angry man who interrupted the Tory meeting the other week. Field treated her that way because he could.
newres
😱Tory leadership race day 1😱

- Police in midnight call to Johnson flat over row with his partner
- Minister Mark Field suspended over physical handing of protestor
- Tory whips investigate abusive texts between Tory MPs
- Tory MP ousted by constituents over expense fraud

Pasted from elsewhere.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 07:32 AM) *
😱Tory leadership race day 1😱

- Police in midnight call to Johnson flat over row with his partner
- Minister Mark Field suspended over physical handing of protestor
- Tory whips investigate abusive texts between Tory MPs
- Tory MP ousted by constituents over expense fraud

Pasted from elsewhere.


The boring consistency of 21st century politicians. rolleyes.gif
Andy Capp
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 06:45 AM) *
Did you see the fury on his face? Thatís why I used the term. Field is a disgrace. And note too the difference in treatment received by the large angry man who interrupted the Tory meeting the other week. Field treated her that way because he could.

Yes, he looks like someone who chooses when to be Ďcourageousí.
newres
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 22 2019, 11:03 AM) *
Yes, he looks like someone who chooses when to be Ďcourageousí.

Quite.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 07:32 AM) *
😱Tory leadership race day 1😱

- Police in midnight call to Johnson flat over row with his partner
- Minister Mark Field suspended over physical handing of protestor
- Tory whips investigate abusive texts between Tory MPs
- Tory MP ousted by constituents over expense fraud

Pasted from elsewhere.

What's the alternative? Corbyn will make Brexit look like a tea party. He's a communist. He would take us back to the 70s. Within 4 years we'd have 5 million unemployed and the economy would be in ruins. Even Blair would be better and I can't stand that war monger.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 22 2019, 01:52 PM) *
What's the alternative? Corbyn will make Brexit look like a tea party. He's a communist. He would take us back to the 70s. Within 4 years we'd have 5 million unemployed and the economy would be in ruins. Even Blair would be better and I can't stand that war monger.

Instead of slogans tell me what was in the last manifesto that youíre worried about.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 04:01 PM) *
Instead of slogans tell me what was in the last manifesto that youíre worried about.

A fool and his money are soon parted. You vote for the commie. Don't complain after though. Any prospective chancellor that waves Maos red book about in the commons is quite frankly... frightening.



SirWilliam
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 04:01 PM) *
Instead of slogans tell me what was in the last manifesto that youíre worried about.

It is not what corbyn says he will do as what we know he will do. Once in power he will bleed this country dry and the only ones to benefit will be the unemployable who overnight will find themselves in paradise. Excessive hyperbole? Just put your X next to his name and find out.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 22 2019, 04:44 PM) *
A fool and his money are soon parted. You vote for the commie. Don't complain after though. Any prospective chancellor that waves Maos red book about in the commons is quite frankly... frightening.

Didnít think youíd actually have a clue. Itís a perfect example of why some things are best left to MPs. Sure, you can vote with your gut on a party, but the people we elect need to be more cerebral.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 06:52 PM) *
Didnít think youíd actually have a clue. Itís a perfect example of why some things are best left to MPs. Sure, you can vote with your gut on a party, but the people we elect need to be more cerebral.

That from someone who cannot construct a sentence.I doubt you know what AI, MDM, Azure, MTU, or PowerApps even mean. 😂😂😂
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 22 2019, 07:02 PM) *
That from someone who cannot construct a sentence.I doubt you know what AI, MDM, Azure, MTU, or PowerApps even mean. 😂😂😂

Nope. Things like that are best left to geeks.
James_Trinder
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 21 2019, 10:56 PM) *
What makes me smile is that the UK is a word leader in its reduction of CO2, well on target to meet its target of zero carbon emissions by 2050


Yes, they are a word leader but actions speak louder than words. In all seriousness, the target could be met much quicker than that if more resources were invested into it.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 22 2019, 09:29 PM) *
Nope. Things like that are best left to geeks.

Happy to be a geek fella if that's what you call people that can actually change the world for the better rather than moaning on social media platforms.

People like me are the Oppenheimers of the 21st Century....Starts design on a Newres terminator...🤣🤣🤣

TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 22 2019, 09:49 PM) *
Yes, they are a word leader but actions speak louder than words. In all seriousness, the target could be met much quicker than that if more resources were invested into it.

Agreed. How do you change other countries stances, other than setting an example? My choice would be trade.. Commit to reductions and monitor them or we don't buy. It's the only none conflict way. If the big 5 or 6 countries did that it might have an effect.
James_Trinder
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 22 2019, 07:02 PM) *
That from someone who cannot construct a sentence.I doubt you know what AI, MDM, Azure, MTU, or PowerApps even mean. 😂😂😂


I certainly know what Azure is, as it is the cloud infrastructure of choice at my company. I'm neither a DBA nor do I work in the IT department so thankfully I have nothing to do with the back end.
newres
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 22 2019, 09:49 PM) *
Yes, they are a word leader but actions speak louder than words. In all seriousness, the target could be met much quicker than that if more resources were invested into it.

And weíre not. At least one country has a zero target of 25 years earlier than ours.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 22 2019, 10:05 PM) *
Happy to be a geek fella if that's what you call people that can actually change the world for the better rather than moaning on social media platforms.

People like me are the Oppenheimers of the 21st Century....Starts design on a Newres terminator...🤣🤣🤣

I think youíre getting ahead of yourself slightly.

And youíre the moaner. Iím content with the status quo.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 23 2019, 06:38 AM) *
I think youíre getting ahead of yourself slightly.

And youíre the moaner. Iím content with the status quo.

And you probably still listen to them.😂
Biker1
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 21 2019, 11:33 PM) *
Quite. I do hope they all live zero carbon lives. I would guarantee you though that my carbon emissions are less than these so called protesters.
I travel to work on an electric train and walk to the station

If it decides to run on overhead electricity. For some reason they often stay in diesel !!
Biker1
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 22 2019, 06:28 PM) *
the only ones to benefit will be the unemployable who overnight will find themselves in paradise.

For a short while!
Biker1
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 22 2019, 09:49 PM) *
Yes, they are a word leader but actions speak louder than words. In all seriousness, the target could be met much quicker than that if more resources were invested into it.

As a race we set ourselves unachievable targets.
If climate change is man made then the problem stems from over population.
Any measures smaller countries like ourselves take will be swallowed up by the inaction of those that don't.
Plus the world population continues to increase, again negating any climate change reduction attempts.
Unless the world population begins to decrease then we are on a futile path. (Perhaps the only way that will happen is if it's done for us?)
Q. What's the most environmentally unfriendly thing you can do?
A. Bring a child into the world!!

Have a great, hot summer folks!! smile.gif
Turin Machine
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 23 2019, 06:36 AM) *
And weíre not. At least one country has a zero target of 25 years earlier than ours.

Which ones?
newres
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 23 2019, 10:50 AM) *
Which ones?

Norway and Finland.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jun 23 2019, 11:47 AM) *
Norway and Finland.

The combined population of both counties is about 10 million. A bit easier to manage.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 23 2019, 08:45 AM) *
As a race we set ourselves unachievable targets.
If climate change is man made then the problem stems from over population.
Any measures smaller countries like ourselves take will be swallowed up by the inaction of those that don't.
Plus the world population continues to increase, again negating any climate change reduction attempts.
Unless the world population begins to decrease then we are on a futile path. (Perhaps the only way that will happen is if it's done for us?)
Q. What's the most environmentally unfriendly thing you can do?
A. Bring a child into the world!!

Have a great, hot summer folks!! smile.gif


Quite agree Biker. We are an irrelevance to Climate change. Sure we can set an example, but unless world action is taken then any efforts by us are futile.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 23 2019, 11:59 AM) *
The combined population of both counties is about 10 million. A bit easier to manage.

So? Iím just correcting your statement about us being world leaders.
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