Nicely played Theresa, nicely played.

Oh dear. If it’s a trap, JC will walk. He isn’t stupid and I reckon he’ll be believed.

Oh dear. If it’s a trap, JC will walk. He isn’t stupid and I reckon he’ll be believed.

He's lost a lot of grass roots support, his generation X support is withering and all he wants now is a term as pm. If he can be handled the right way he can be shown to be a bumbling Marxist who wouldn't play ball to save the country. Yeah, he is that stupid. Give a Marxist enough rope and all that. Never know he might get miss Dianne to do the sums on it.

We’ll see.

I find it hilarious that you and your ilk constantly berate and belittle the 'baby boomer' generation yet get all squirmy and moist at the thought of having a seventy year old in number ten.

We’ll see.

I find it hilarious that you and your ilk constantly berate and belittle the 'baby boomer' generation yet get all squirmy and moist at the thought of having a seventy year old in number ten.

Dear God, just please make it stop.......................!

Dear God, just please make it stop.......................!

I'm with Derek, I would rather put my hand in a liquidiser and give the on / off switch to newres than put up with anymore of this nonsense. Seriously, ******* stay or go, I'm past caring, just do something, anything!

That's been the plan all along. Make the Brexiteers give up. Bit stupid really as this will come back to haunt them. The repercussions will be huge...

I'm with Derek, I would rather put my hand in a liquidiser and give the on / off switch to newres than put up with anymore of this nonsense. Seriously, ******* stay or go, I'm past caring, just do something, anything!

I guess you believe that religion should be banned then.🤣

Wholly agree but how dare you imply comments I've made are not true. What proof do you or anyone else need? Signed affidavits, entries from Hansard, published papers or what? Past experience here demonstrates that even if paths are provided, certain posters with closed minds still won't open. If we take the Irish border question, then that is actually dealt with in a technical paper created by the EU dealing with potential consequences of the UKs exit - go find. The very nature of politics means that there will be often wildly different interpretations of what appear at first sight to be clear and correct information - which time and again is proved unclear and incorrect. Most people are also beginning to realise that the web or Google is not the sole or indeed an infallible source. So for me, political debate is only possible with people who are able to respond with a reasoned grounded reply and not simply insults when their own views are challenged. I can only conclude that isn't likely to happen here.

I haven't been particularly specific so if you feel that it applies to you then that's your issue. If you can't prove something or at least point us in the direction of where the information is, then why would anyone believe you? It's as good as the old "a bloke down the pub told me" opener to all sorts of nonsense and urban myths that we don't have anymore.

Such as?

I think that one argument is that the public will lose faith in democracy and there will be rioting in the streets etc. I don't really buy it myself because people often vote for political parties on the basis of what is in their manifesto and often these promises are either broken, watered down or delayed. Granted, this is a bit more high profile than most of those promises and the vote for it was a bit more direct than usual but most people are fairly used to being lied to and generally let down by politicians.

I think that one argument is that the public will lose faith in democracy and there will be rioting in the streets etc. I don't really buy it myself because people often vote for political parties on the basis of what is in their manifesto and often these promises are either broken, watered down or delayed. Granted, this is a bit more high profile than most of those promises and the vote for it was a bit more direct than usual but most people are fairly used to being lied to and generally let down by politicians.

I couldn't agree more. Project fear at work...

Don't make me laugh. I thought we were supposed to be in a major recession after the vote in 2016. That worked out just as the experts predicted....project fear my a$$.

I haven't been particularly specific so if you feel that it applies to you then that's your issue. If you can't prove something or at least point us in the direction of where the information is, then why would anyone believe you? It's as good as the old "a bloke down the pub told me" opener to all sorts of nonsense and urban myths that we don't have anymore.

They got that wrong. I don’t think it was a deliberate lie. I must admit I thought all these things would happen with all the uncertainty and I assumed the markets would immediately “price in” the impact. However the markets and businesses behaved sensibly. I have absolutely no doubt that no deal would wreck our economy and I base that on observable reality (people panic buying, housing market behaviour etc.) and more importantly the view of 99% of economists and experts.

They got that wrong. I don’t think it was a deliberate lie. I must admit I thought all these things would happen with all the uncertainty and I assumed the markets would immediately “price in” the impact. However the markets and businesses behaved sensibly. I have absolutely no doubt that no deal would wreck our economy and I base that on observable reality (people panic buying, housing market behaviour etc.) and more importantly the view of 99% of economists and experts.

Linky thing please.

To?

Your assertion that 99% of economists are predicting disaster and disruption. Not that I doubt your word, but.

Your assertion that 99% of economists are mind predicting disaster and disruption. Not that I doubt your word, but.

Instead, here’s a link to the 1%.

https://www.economistsforfreetrade.com/News...top-economists/

If you'd actually bothered to read the post you would see you were pointed to the evidence'.
I'd have to argue that the vast amount of information we have today, much masquerading as data, generates rather more urban mythology than we've ever had - which is ironic, given 'the bloke in the pub' along with the house, is fast disappearing.

It's also quite interesting that some see this Irish border issue is the root cause of our Brexit problem. Rather odd that Mrs May is making no overtures to the Irish government let alone making specific mention in her recent discussions.

What post? I said people should stop citing things as facts if they're not, and if they're questionable backing up. You went off on one, and said that you shouldn't have to... I replied and said it wasnt specifically aimed at anyone.. and now it's all a bit untangible. You did say the Irish border was clearly not an issue though. When it's the main reason Brexit has been suspended...

I can't actually read for you; sorry.

If the Irish border was one of the main issues, we'd be out already; it's not. Sure, some fringe commentators with other agendas imagine it is, but it isn't. That's why Mrs May isn't in Dublin right now.

I've already told you where you can see even with no deal, even the EU don't consider the Irish issue a significant problem.

And actually I was 'already on one' simply because another poster had was posting obtuse and what I considered unnecessarily offensive responses - so your apparently non specific response simply added.

Never mind, having spent most of last week at our European HO with our markets and trading people, although we have considerable business with and in both Eire and Northern Ireland - we don't see any issues that won't be quickly overcome; Brexit, deal or not. So, I'm all right Jack and happily leave you to find your own way through.

But the children... what about the children??? You have ruined any future they may have had!! (Well it's a good excuse for them anyway).

You did say the Irish border was clearly not an issue though. When it's the main reason Brexit has been suspended...

Please support this statement of fact with some evidence please.

The evidence doesn't exist. It's just opinion. We had one last chance. Idiots stopped it. I won't be voting again (apart from taking my time writing my thoughts down... may take 10 or 15 mins... if all brexiteers do this we can invalidate the next election...of any sort...imagine the queues...)...🤣🤣🤣🤣

Far be it for me to point out the obvious but that sort of behaviour is exactly what the political establishment would relish. "The electorate of the UK can not be trusted with the democratic process, so lets abolish it in favour of something else".Would be the cry If you really want to p**s them off vote for the Monster Raving Loonies or similar and then see their smug grins disappear when the count is announced.

Please support this statement of fact with some evidence please.

The evidence is that the DUP won’t back the deal because of the backstop at the border. Remove Ireland from the equation and there’s no need of a backstop. It is the sole reason the WA won’t pass because the EU requires alignment in return for an open border.

Not getting it are you, just saying it's evidence doesn't make it so. Show some links to back it up, show your workings out! 😂

I think good sense is about to prevail and the whole mess is about to be kicked into the weeds.

I think you might be right. Or else Labour will back TM’s deal with a public vote on it.

I think you might be right. Or else Labour will back TM’s deal with a public vote on it.

All I know is that the brown sticky stuff is going to hit the fan. Whatever happens half the country are gonna be p1ssed off.

90% of the country could no longer give a flying pig whether we stay or leave as long as SOMETHING happens. It is the remaining 10% that are making the noise. It will end in another vote, either in the form of a referendum or general election, and then we can all get back to important issues like the price of german beer.

How did you get to that percentage Sir Will? Are you making it up? Point me to a linky thing that backs this up. Otherwise it's just made up...😂😂😂🤣🤣😋

You make the mistake of thinking everyone cares and gets as excited as you do. Or the loons that phone into Farage or Fogg. If you really want to see the **** hit the fan, leave with no deal! Then you’ll see genuine anger.