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TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 30 2019, 03:23 PM) *
The public in all polls seem very much to be as diverse as they were at the start. Efforts to delay Brexit failed miserably last night, no delay means no time left for a second referendum. Either, the EU cabal will need to bend on the whole backstop issue or we simply crash out with no deal. Those are the only two options.

And who the **** drinks Prosecco?


Quite and the #fbpe types have hardened opinion to leave. With the likes of femi (funded by Soros and the EU), Lammy (ever seen him on mastermind?) Worth a youtube look as I didn't realise it was possible for an elected politician to be quite so thick!!!🤣 And don't even get me started in Polly Toynbee...
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Jan 30 2019, 06:52 PM) *
Did you switch off the TV before the end of the votes?

Oh, you mean the NON BINDING amendment?
Turin Machine
Well, just back from the boat show in Germany and it's **** near as cold here as it was there! Two schools of thought over there, the locals in the bars are pretty much wishing they could do the same as us, industry is bricking itself over damage to it's already falling car sales figures and most everyone else is running around wondering where the money is going to come from to prop up Mutti's spending dream. Anyway, quick slice of toast and off to bed!
SirWilliam
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 31 2019, 07:30 AM) *
Well, just back from the boat show in Germany and it's **** near as cold here as it was there! Two schools of thought over there, the locals in the bars are pretty much wishing they could do the same as us, industry is bricking itself over damage to it's already falling car sales figures and most everyone else is running around wondering where the money is going to come from to prop up Mutti's spending dream. Anyway, quick slice of toast and off to bed!


Shame the media don't send their vox pop reporters into the real world instead of giving airtime to the rentamouth rabble that occupies our televisions on a daily basis. Real people with real jobs and real concerns will forge a new future europe but it may be some time.
Take Ireland for instance. The obvious route is a united autonomous Ireland outside of both the UK and EU that trades freely with the UK in a similar vein to the Chanel Islands and Man, but can anyone see the politicians agreeing to that even though it would be beneficial to one and all?
Meanwhile march 29th approacheth.
newres
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 31 2019, 07:30 AM) *
Well, just back from the boat show in Germany and it's **** near as cold here as it was there! Two schools of thought over there, the locals in the bars are pretty much wishing they could do the same as us, industry is bricking itself over damage to it's already falling car sales figures and most everyone else is running around wondering where the money is going to come from to prop up Mutti's spending dream. Anyway, quick slice of toast and off to bed!

Probably thatís true in the bars youíd be in.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Jan 31 2019, 05:01 PM) *
Probably thatís true in the bars youíd be in.

QUOTE (newres @ Jan 25 2019, 06:47 AM) *
Isnít it obvious? Sheís an uppity negro.
newres
Did you have a sarcasm bypass?
newres
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 31 2019, 10:05 AM) *
Shame the media don't send their vox pop reporters into the real world instead of giving airtime to the rentamouth rabble that occupies our televisions on a daily basis. Real people with real jobs and real concerns will forge a new future europe but it may be some time.
Take Ireland for instance. The obvious route is a united autonomous Ireland outside of both the UK and EU that trades freely with the UK in a similar vein to the Chanel Islands and Man, but can anyone see the politicians agreeing to that even though it would be beneficial to one and all?
Meanwhile march 29th approacheth.

Ireland isnít stupid enough to want to leave the EU. I think the issue is that having had a real war of independence from a genuinely foul occupier, they donít feel the need to invent one.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Jan 31 2019, 08:29 PM) *
Did you have a sarcasm bypass?

QUOTE (newres @ Jan 25 2019, 06:47 AM) *
Isnít it obvious? Sheís an uppity negro.


Racist!
Turin Machine
QUOTE (newres @ Jan 31 2019, 05:01 PM) *
Probably thatís true in the bars youíd be in.

Same bars as these people.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/0...ideologues/amp/
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Jan 31 2019, 08:32 PM) *
Ireland isnít stupid enough to want to leave the EU. I think the issue is that having had a real war of independence from a genuinely foul occupier, they donít feel the need to invent one.


Political instability is rife in the EU.

France is on fire and Macron is less popular than the Vichy leader, Germany struggling with migration and will go into recession in April, Greece broke, Italy fighting back but now in recession with broke banks, Poland and Hungary threatened with Art 7 for "nationalism". And don't even get me started on Deutsche Banks bonkers balance sheet.

So if I was Ireland.. I'd go for an Irexit. To remainers the EU seems to be some sort of cult and they will follow it until they end up in some sort of WACO type ending. Good luck with that.

P.S. - Its nice to call the Country of your birth (presumably) a "foul occupier". If I felt that way about the Country I call home I would move to a Country that I shared values with. Perhaps you should give it some thought?? For your own mental health.

newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jan 31 2019, 10:52 PM) *
Political instability is rife in the EU.

France is on fire and Macron is less popular than the Vichy leader, Germany struggling with migration and will go into recession in April, Greece broke, Italy fighting back but now in recession with broke banks, Poland and Hungary threatened with Art 7 for "nationalism". And don't even get me started on Deutsche Banks bonkers balance sheet.

So if I was Ireland.. I'd go for an Irexit. To remainers the EU seems to be some sort of cult and they will follow it until they end up in some sort of WACO type ending. Good luck with that.

P.S. - Its nice to call the Country of your birth (presumably) a "foul occupier". If I felt that way about the Country I call home I would move to a Country that I shared values with. Perhaps you should give it some thought?? For your own mental health.

Britain behaved fouly in Ireland. Not my fault you didn't know. Look up Cork, Black and Tans and Cromwell.
Strafin
Just because you don't like somehitng about a country doesn't mean you should leave! You can try and have a positive change. The running away mentality is like a stroppy teenager outlook, or brexiteers!
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 1 2019, 11:06 AM) *
Britain behaved fouly in Ireland. Not my fault you didn't know. Look up Cork, Black and Tans and Cromwell.

And the IRA behaved fouly as well during the troubles. Your another of these "I'm so ashamed of my countries past" brigade. I bet Churchill causes you great consternation. A racist imperialist who fought against the most evil regime ever.🤣
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 1 2019, 11:13 AM) *
Just because you don't like somehitng about a country doesn't mean you should leave! You can try and have a positive change. The running away mentality is like a stroppy teenager outlook, or brexiteers!

Or Hollywood luvvies when Trump won. Or remainers saying they will leave and then not following through.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2019, 11:46 AM) *
And the IRA behaved fouly as well during the troubles. Your another of these "I'm so ashamed of my countries past" brigade. I bet Churchill causes you great consternation. A racist imperialist who fought against the most evil regime ever.🤣

Hilarious that he thinks his mother country is foul because of Cromwell but thinks we should bind tighter to Europe, think Hitler and Mussolini. But then he is disturbed.

QUOTE (newres @ Jan 25 2019, 06:47 AM) *
Isnít it obvious? Sheís an uppity negro.
Andy1
You can't change the past, dwelling on it doesn't help. However you can change the future, something remainers could have done if they'd all have exercised their vote instead of staying at home assuming it would never happen. Now they want a second chance. I would rather stay but I accept the result, lets move on.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (Andy1 @ Feb 1 2019, 12:10 PM) *
You can't change the past, dwelling on it doesn't help. However you can change the future, something remainers could have done if they'd all have exercised their vote instead of staying at home assuming it would never happen. Now they want a second chance. I would rather stay but I accept the result, lets move on.

Quite agree, regardless of ones personal take if we're to go anywhere we need to make whatever happens work. Recriminations won't get us anywhere, if we and the politicians had all pulled in the same direction two years ago we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. Regardless of the colour of your rosette the only person to have come out of this with any credibility is T M if only for her doggedness and resolution. JC has just looked like a rather tatty paper tiger and has bought discredit on the labour movement.
Turin Machine
THIS, is a good article,

The Guardian: So, poorer Brexiters voted to be worse off? Thereís nothing wrong in that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...g-class-leavers
James_Trinder
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2019, 11:48 AM) *
Or Hollywood luvvies when Trump won. Or remainers saying they will leave and then not following through.


I am a remainer and if I end up losing my job due to this Brexit shambles then I promise you that I will be off to Germany.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Feb 1 2019, 01:20 PM) *
I am a remainer and if I end up losing my job due to this Brexit shambles then I promise you that I will be off to Germany.

Good. A man with principals. Where in Germany? Do you speak fluent German? Would be helpful.
SirWilliam
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2019, 01:39 PM) *
Good. A man with principals. Where in Germany? Do you speak fluent German? Would be helpful.


Give it 20 years and all europe will be speaking german so patience has it's own reward. Even the remoaners will have their day but not at the expense of the democratic process.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2019, 11:46 AM) *
And the IRA behaved fouly as well during the troubles. Your another of these "I'm so ashamed of my countries past" brigade. I bet Churchill causes you great consternation. A racist imperialist who fought against the most evil regime ever.🤣

No, I agree with him. He said five minutes talking to the average bloke on the street would convince you democracy is a bad idea.
newres
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 1 2019, 12:54 PM) *
THIS, is a good article,

The Guardian: So, poorer Brexiters voted to be worse off? Thereís nothing wrong in that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...g-class-leavers

Ofcourse the problem with the article is that the premise is wrong. Leave told us weíd be better off and weíd get a fantastic deal from the EU so people did NOT vote to be worse off.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 1 2019, 04:01 PM) *
Ofcourse the problem with the article is that the premise is wrong. Leave told us weíd be better off and weíd get a fantastic deal from the EU so people did NOT vote to be worse off.

Say you, but then you also think this is a good idea,

QUOTE (newres @ Jan 25 2019, 06:47 AM) *
Isnít it obvious? Sheís an uppity negro.
newres
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 1 2019, 04:34 PM) *
Say you, but then you also think this is a good idea,

Youíve lost me there.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 1 2019, 05:29 PM) *
Youíve lost me there.

No, it wouldn't be a loss. Nasty racist.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 1 2019, 06:27 PM) *
No, it wouldn't be a loss. Nasty racist.

He's not a racist. He is the perfect human specimen. His actual name is James Thurber...🤣
Biker1
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2019, 12:46 PM) *
And the IRA behaved fouly as well during the troubles. Your another of these "I'm so ashamed of my countries past" brigade. I bet Churchill causes you great consternation. A racist imperialist who fought against the most evil regime ever.🤣

Newres, I just wondered out of interest what your thoughts are of those who desecrated the memorials to WWII Bomber Command and WPC Yvonne Fletcher?

Sorry to divert the topic but seemed a good time to ask the question. Left wing liberal's ideas on such things interest me.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 1 2019, 07:05 PM) *
Newres, I just wondered out of interest what your thoughts are of those who desecrated the memorials to WWII Bomber Command and WPC Yvonne Fletcher?

Sorry to divert the topic but seemed a good time to ask the question. Left wing liberal's ideas on such things interest me.


Grabs popcorn... waits for answer....
James_Trinder
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 1 2019, 01:39 PM) *
Good. A man with principals. Where in Germany? Do you speak fluent German? Would be helpful.


I have an "A" in A-Level German so I am pretty good by English standards and if I lived there for a while then I would imagine that I would become fluent in the end. If possible I would like to settle in Hessen since it is fairly similar to West Berkshire in terms of landscape and type of people and it is also one of the few places in Germany where cider is readily available.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Feb 2 2019, 01:41 PM) *
I have an "A" in A-Level German so I am pretty good by English standards and if I lived there for a while then I would imagine that I would become fluent in the end. If possible I would like to settle in Hessen since it is fairly similar to West Berkshire in terms of landscape and type of people and it is also one of the few places in Germany where cider is readily available.

Good for you, if you've mastered the verb structure the rest is comparatively easy. If their cider is as good as their beer (and better than french cider) you should be on a winner. Good luck!
newres
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 1 2019, 07:05 PM) *
Newres, I just wondered out of interest what your thoughts are of those who desecrated the memorials to WWII Bomber Command and WPC Yvonne Fletcher?

Sorry to divert the topic but seemed a good time to ask the question. Left wing liberal's ideas on such things interest me.

I think itís disgraceful. And?
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 2 2019, 04:07 PM) *
I think itís disgraceful. And?

You must think Bomber Command acted disgracefully in WW2 though and all police are racist scum? Surely...
😂
TallDarkAndHandsome
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je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 2 2019, 04:07 PM) *
I think itís disgraceful. And?

And you're a dribbling, window licking, spacktard racist.
Biker1
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 2 2019, 05:07 PM) *
I think itís disgraceful. And?

No, that's fine. Interesting thanks.
No "And".
newres
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 3 2019, 09:16 AM) *
And you're a dribbling, window licking, spacktard racist.

Well itís up to you. I took you off block, but if youíre going to be a tw@t again Iíll put you back on. Iíve no interest in engaging with a te@t online or real life. Up to you. Iím not bothered either way.
newres
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 3 2019, 10:21 AM) *
No, that's fine. Interesting thanks.
No "And".

Iím actually not that left wing. I guess Iím pretty unhappy with our foreign policy and find myself not out of line with Corbyn on many things. Notably the Middle East, but economic policy wise Iím ethically capitalist I guess. On the whole Iím in favour of private ownership of the utilities for example.

I donít like the idea of a Corbyn led government but Iíd prefer that to Brexit.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 3 2019, 05:55 PM) *
Iím actually not that left wing. I guess Iím pretty unhappy with our foreign policy and find myself not out of line with Corbyn on many things. Notably the Middle East, but economic policy wise Iím ethically capitalist I guess. On the whole Iím in favour of private ownership of the utilities for example.

I donít like the idea of a Corbyn led government but Iíd prefer that to Brexit.


Brexit cometh my friend... welcome it. You never know. You could quite possibly be wrong and it may be a good thing. Then again you may be right and I wont have any medicine, food or NHS on the 30th March. The proof of the pudding as they say...is in the eating..
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 3 2019, 05:49 PM) *
Well itís up to you. I took you off block, but if youíre going to be a tw@t again Iíll put you back on. Iíve no interest in engaging with a te@t online or real life. Up to you. Iím not bothered either way.

I have no space in my life for a racist like you.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 3 2019, 05:55 PM) *
Iím actually not that left wing. I guess Iím pretty unhappy with our foreign policy and find myself not out of line with Corbyn on many things. Notably the Middle East, but economic policy wise Iím ethically capitalist I guess. On the whole Iím in favour of private ownership of the utilities for example.

I donít like the idea of a Corbyn led government but Iíd prefer that to Brexit.


That's good.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/f...rm-centre-group
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 3 2019, 07:34 PM) *



Personally I want to be out when the German banks collapse...which they will do as they have built up endless bad debts to cover the ***** of failing southern European states. Anyone with any ounce of Finanial acumen knows what is coming and it is going to make 2008 and Brexit look like slideshows... I pity the next German Chancellor..oh and remember how the EU treated the UK when they are in the sh1t.

Trading with the rest of the world whilst the EU implodes may be out salvation.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 3 2019, 07:36 PM) *
I have no space in my life for a racist like you.

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Turin Machine
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 3 2019, 07:48 PM) *
Personally I want to be out when the German banks collapse...which they will do as they have built up endless bad debts to cover the ***** of failing southern European states. Anyone with any ounce of Finanial acumen knows what is coming and it is going to make 2008 and Brexit look like slideshows... I pity the next German Chancellor..oh and remember how the EU treated the UK when they are in the sh1t.

Trading with the rest of the world whilst the EU implodes may be out salvation.

Which is precisely why they don't want us to go, basically the whole shooting match is bankrupt, financially and fiscally.
Turin Machine
QUOTE (newres @ Feb 3 2019, 05:49 PM) *
Well itís up to you. I took you off block, but if youíre going to be a tw@t again Iíll put you back on. Iíve no interest in engaging with a te@t online or real life. Up to you. Iím not bothered either way.

I bet that's ruined JSC's whole day.
Andy1
No wonder this forum fails to attract new users.
newres
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 3 2019, 07:36 PM) *
I have no space in my life for a racist like you.

Fair enough. Post away with you childish insults, I wonít see them.
newres
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 3 2019, 08:00 PM) *
I bet that's ruined JSC's whole day.

Iím not bothered either way.
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