Will bring about nationalist brexit type hysteria..

Newres must be hoping England lose..😂

https://mobile.twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/sta...983713900433408

Apart from the obvious reason I really do hope we win it because it will so p**s off the french that they never will agree to a brexit deal and we shall be stuck in limbo land for eternity..........Or at least till we have a government that carries out the wish of the majority without pandering to a few wooly-headed europhiles.

I always love how non football fans become experts and Uber enthusiasts during a modest World Cup run. It has to be said that we’ll never have a better chance with all the top teams out.

Re: Brexit. I think TM seems to be doing a good job. I think ultimately the country will be worse off as for once Rees Mogg is correct, we’ll still be doing as the EU require but now we won’t have a say. The whole thing is daft, but the government are going to deliver Brexit to the thickires without bankrupting the country.

"Modest World Cup Run".... Speaks volumes. You must hate all those working class people waving the flag of st george... Scum eh? How dare those thickires (whatever they are) love the country they live in? They should be waving an EU flag...😂😂😂

Have you got a flag hanging out of your bedroom window? Somehow I doubt it. I do admit losing interest in top flight football in recent years but I still regularly watch my home city league 1 team where there’s not a prawn sandwich in sight. If we’re going all inverted snobbery, my credentials are probably better than yours. I do hope England win but I rather suspect the thick racists (Brexiteers) will use it as a rallying call. Daft ofcourse but it’ll be lapped up by the flag wavers.

Anyway, TDH, who do you support and have you got a season ticket?

Stoke through thick and thin... And used to. Always a potter. When your from clarice cliff stock you have no choice....

Ah, a junkie then. That explains it.

Very droll. Footballs coing home fella. England flags everywhere. You must hate it. When do they remove our star from that wretched EU flag??

Why do you support Stoke now you've moved to Berkshire, the 'Tebbitt test' says you ought to be supporting Reading.

Stoke, like many areas devastated by global trading benefits hugely from EU funding. That's gonna end soon although the UK government has committed to supporting existing projects. I guess now that you're a "big shot IT guy" it means nothing to you. Shame on you.

I'm not bothered by the England flags although I think it's a bit tacky. Fortunately there aren't any where I live.

I think the word is "blinkered".
You know nothing of Stoke. 70% voted leave due in most part to the failure of the EUl.

https://brexitcentral.com/brexit-must-refre...u-failed-reach/

But then you only take in news that suits your agenda.

Yes, the rundown of the industrial heartlands of England is a very sorry situation. It's been going on awhile now; root causes down to poor UK management and lack of financial support for business, a problem not caused by but simply made worse by our membership of EU. Hardly surprising that the indigenous population emigrate South when they get the chance, but against today's backdrop, surprising the population in the South don't object and even make them welcome.

Yes, interesting isn't it? Many of these areas blame immigrants for their plight. Social deprivation and lack of education makes them easy prey to the rubbish that's peddled.

The huge irony here was so well illustrated in 'The Boys from the Blackstuff' - when the decline of English manufacturing started, many of us can remember the hordes of British building workers from the North flooded into Germany!

Or they could just love the Country they live in, despite all of the deprivation whilst the social snobs leer at them for being "uneducated". I remember my roots. I pity your kids, if you have any.

Why did you emigrate then TDH?

Most firms encourage working from home, so seriously, might be worth thinking of returning. You'd be able to get a mansion being able to sell at Berkshire prices. If we could get enough of your compatriots to follow suit, we'd start balancing the north south divide again.

Yes, **** off back.

I've lived here all my life, not just pitched up from London because you dont like it in that part of the world anymore. If anyone should **** off back it should be you my little remoaning foe.😂

Really interesting, are you a second or third generation? Your continued affection for Stoke and support for its football club illustrates just how difficult it is for incomers to quickly integrate and assimilate the ways of their adopted community. Did you find it difficult at school because of your difference; or were there other kids in similar circumstances so the effect was diluted?

What a load of old pony.

So you’re not actually from Stoke at all. What a liar.

Going well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44761056

Surprising for someone in IT, nothing you say computes!

Yes; might as well come out with our hands up now.

Really frightening bit comes next. Presumably the likes of Rees-Mogg and Johnson come in as 'serious contenders'.

So, little wonder the pundits are bigging up the football either way it goes, national attention will be deflected.....triples all round.

In my opinion, David Davis couldn't negotiate his away out of a paper bag so I'm not that fussed to see the back of him. The new guy, Dominic Raab, looks quite intelligent from his CV so hopefully this might be an improvement.

The problem is that the circle can’t be squared. Brexiteers are deluded in thinking we just need to be tougher and we’ll get what we want. A bit like raising our voices and speaking slowly so the foreigners understand.

So if Brexit is reversed please don't complain when legal challenges are launched and millions march in London.
This may be the end of the political system as we know it.
You may get your wish... but just watch what happens if it does.
Chaos will ensue. And it will be a **** of a lot worse than Brexit or even full WTO.

Forgive my ignorance but I was under the impression that the brexiteers wanted to leave the EU, period? No negotiating,no divorce payment just complete separation. Now I appreciate that it ain't quite that simple but it is what the majority voted for and anything less is an affront to democracy.
The way things are going on the domestic front there is every likelihood that we could have a snap election in the autumn and the whole in/out debacle will be resurrected. One could use the phoenix analogy but at least that particular bird had the decency to die before being reborn.

Did you see Juncker and Tusk? They were laughing. Stupid British.

#ItsStillComingHome

Football is coming home. Why? Because finally the English FA has good it right by focusing on the U16 to U21 national teams that can feed the senior one. Alan Hanson once said you're never going to win anything with kids. Well these kids have won the hearts and minds and I've every confidence they'll win the trophy. Football is coming home!

I am very much a Remainer but if we have to carry on with this madness that is Brexit then we should at least try to get the best deal possible. If I had my way then we would end this farce by having a second referendum and then simply carry on with the status quo as a result. However, I can't see that happening because the ideological zealots who originally championed Brexit are not pragmatic enough to accept the reality of the hardship that it is going to cause economically.

I suspect you are right; clearly we aren't coming out, in part or at all.

Yes, we all now have little choice other than to accept the creeping economic hardship that will be ours, not now perhaps, but in fifteen or twenty years hence. Still, it suits our 'one size fits all' further educational system; from no on, we really don't need innovative entreprenures, just supervisors. I'm not worried for our generation, but for our kids; what an awful legacy.

Still, at least the Conservatives demonstrate admirable consistency; party comes before country.

Who immediately causes chaos in the house with his shambolic and disrespectful distribution of the white paper.

It might be madness, but the EU has some massive problems and is not interested in reform, we should announce that we are simply walking away and will only pay that which is due. Sometimes it is worth sacrificing the short term for sake of the long term.

Totally agree. And it's been the issue for years. Right now, the negotiating philosophy of the EU executive defies logic. Yes, there would be some short term pain, but we'd have a far better future trading with people who might be unpleasant, but at least are honest.

I have always been under the impression that business is business and friendship is an unwelcome distraction. The EU are behaving like petulant school kids while our "leaders" adopt an unedifying display of sycophantic grovelling to be allowed a few crumbs of their approval.
Not to many would like to share a room with D.Trump esq but he says what he means and in a world of political duplicity I find it quite refreshing. Brexit will still be debated when today's teenagers are drawing their pensions unless we have a collective agreement on what we actually want as opposed to what some want us to have.

Yes, absolutely! Rather worrying, have we really lost our commercial savvy, or perhaps we never had it in the first place?

He’s a proven liar so how is that not duplicitous?

I suppose the trouble is that most politicians are exactly the same these days. For instance, George Osbourne wasn't squeaky clean in this regard and he was our Chancellor. Tony Blair is another shining example. That's just a random two from over here. I wholly agree this modern approach is in no way acceptable, but very sadly, it gets short term results. Nonetheless, it leaves people bitter and cynical. For me, I had a great awakening when I realised that who seemed a genuine fact driven university professor of 'Europen Studies' made the case for staying; based on a totally bogus interpretation of historic fact.

I just dislike the fanaticism of the newres types. Brain washed by the MSM. No individuality. In Sy Fy terms... The borg.

Yeah, CNN, BBC etc. Fake news!

But re: brainwashed by mainstream news. I go against the mainstream. I think US foreign policy is responsible for the extremists we are seeing, I think we should take in genuine asylum seekers from the havoc we contributed to. My views are not mainstream at all. I don’t automatically blame Russia for the Salisbury poisoning’s, I was sympathetic to Irish republicanism. I am not a product of “MSM”. You are!

Methinks you doth protest too much...at least we have established you are a "red in the bed" and a terrorist sympathizer.😂 Personally I think Irish republicanism (another name for terrorism) is abhorrent. I dont think killing people solves anything and yes that includes Syria, Afghanistan, Libya etc. As for not thinking its Russia. The clue is in the name. Novichok. Amazing what you can do with these e cigs and the liquid you use for them these days....

You see you are the product of mainstream news. I’ve always been a free and independent thinker.

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I'm not defending the chap but he should be accepted for what he is, not what people want him to be. All politicians lie, though some are more adept than others. Most of Trump's perceived deceit is down to misinterpretation of his words, not blatant dishonesty as is being banded about by the rabble that is making a laughing stock of this country with their pathetic protesting.

Newres is never wrong SirWill. Dont you know that by now???😂😂

Where have vapes been blamed for the poisoning on the MSM?

Ah, just revert to lying about where you're from to gain "street cred". You're like Kevin Perry's mate after he's visited Manchester. Did you go here to hone your Stoke heritage?

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/whats-on/sa...-can-you-355060