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Do the striking train drivers have a point; expecting just one person to look after a train simply isn't safe?

The bosses answer is that advances in technology mean it is very safe and the drivers are just being Luddites.

However, as regular users of the rail 'service' see, on a daily basis, the technology the rail firms use simply isn't up to the job. How often are there delays because of 'signalling problems', why won't rail cards etc. let you through the barriers, why won't they display platform numbers on their iPhone apps, the list goes on.

So perhaps the drivers have a point!
SirWilliam
Anyone who has been on a train late on a Saturday night with a drunken rabble digesting their football teams performance is grateful of the guards presence , the fact that he could , in reality , do very little if things got heated does not distract from the psychology .
The amount of money lost through industrial action over this issue would have paid the guard's wages for an awfully long time .
And what does the Minister in charge do ? **** all ! angry.gif
Biker1
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 8 2017, 11:11 AM) *
The amount of money lost through industrial action over this issue would have paid the guard's wages for an awfully long time .

Not to mention lost fares due to unmanned trains and stations.
EDIT : Sorry unstaffed! dry.gif
(Must keep the gender police happy!)
Andy Capp
This is the weird thing, late at night when a 'guard' would be nice; there are none. During the day there's loads; often without a clue as to what's going on! tongue.gif
SirWilliam
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 8 2017, 06:09 PM) *
This is the weird thing, late at night when a 'guard' would be nice; there are none. During the day there's loads; often without a clue as to what's going on! tongue.gif


Brings a whole new meaning to " Quis custodiet ipsos custodes " I wonder what Aslef have to say regarding guardless trains presently running ?
Turin Machine
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 8 2017, 10:32 AM) *
Not to mention lost fares due to unmanned trains and stations.
EDIT : Sorry unstaffed! dry.gif
(Must keep the gender police happy!)

Trains are indeed 'Gender Neutral' as apparently is everything else if the media is to be believed.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 8 2017, 06:45 PM) *
Trains are indeed 'Gender Neutral' as apparently is everything else if the media is to be believed.


Women only carriages soon. Be just like talibanland. Marvellous.😂
Biker1
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 8 2017, 08:09 PM) *
This is the weird thing, late at night when a 'guard' would be nice; there are none. During the day there's loads; often without a clue as to what's going on! tongue.gif

There are no guards on the "turbo" type trains on our and many other lines. They are Driver Only Operation (DOO).
Only the HST's have guards. (Or Train Managers as they now like to call them!).
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2017, 08:35 PM) *
Women only carriages soon. Be just like talibanland. Marvellous.😂

"Legal recognition for non-binary people planned in Scotland"

Well that's good, I was getting worried about that. smile.gif You couldn't make this stuff up. Oh wait, you don't need to now. laugh.gif
On the edge
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 9 2017, 04:17 PM) *
"Legal recognition for non-binary people planned in Scotland"

Well that's good, I was getting worried about that. smile.gif You couldn't make this stuff up. Oh wait, you don't need to now. laugh.gif


Looking forward to 'cheap day return, make it half and half please' laugh.gif

The gender issue is quite interesting. Presumably, if we can now choose our gender, by the same token, we must be able to choose our race?
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 9 2017, 05:03 PM) *
Looking forward to 'cheap day return, make it half and half please' laugh.gif

The gender issue is quite interesting. Presumably, if we can now choose our gender, by the same token, we must be able to choose our race?


You are white. You are bad. Your forefathers were bad. You should repent and give all your assets over to the oppressed to make up for the sins of the past. Just saying as you are obviously a baddun. One of my colleagues is very successful. A self made man. Ghanaian. Lovely man. Christian. When he gets home he is called "coconut" by his fellow countrymen. Black on the outside. White on the in. He takes it as it is meant. A joke. This country has lost its sense of humour.
newres
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 9 2017, 09:43 PM) *
You are white. You are bad. Your forefathers were bad. You should repent and give all your assets over to the oppressed to make up for the sins of the past. Just saying as you are obviously a baddun. One of my colleagues is very successful. A self made man. Ghanaian. Lovely man. Christian. When he gets home he is called "coconut" by his fellow countrymen. Black on the outside. White on the in. He takes it as it is meant. A joke. This country has lost its sense of humour.

Oh for the days of Sambo, Nignog and Chalky on the TV. We knew how to laugh then.
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2017, 06:08 AM) *
Oh for the days of Sambo, Nignog and Chalky on the TV. We knew how to laugh then.

Why are you always looking to be offended? May I suggest you find a "safe space" and retire to it?
Andy Capp
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 10 2017, 06:44 AM) *
Why are you always looking to be offended? May I suggest you find a "safe space" and retire to it?

I think he’s pointing something out more than taking offence? I have to wonder why Love Thy Neighbour is not so funny these days, but other shows from the period are.

Being controversial: Blazing Saddles is one of my favourite films. unsure.gif
Biker1
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 11:14 AM) *
I think he’s pointing something out more than taking offence? I have to wonder why Love Thy Neighbour is not so funny these days, but other shows from the period are.

I think it's fair to remember that in all these programmes the bigot was the one made out to be the ignorant fool.
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 11:14 AM) *
Being controversial: Blazing Saddles is one of my favourite films. unsure.gif

And mine!!
Biker1
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2017, 10:35 PM) *
Women only carriages soon. Be just like talibanland. Marvellous.��

You can't do that now though can you?
How would you cater for all the other genders?
No, trains have to be "gender neutral" like Top Shop and their changing rooms! laugh.gif
newres
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 09:14 AM) *
I think he’s pointing something out more than taking offence? I have to wonder why Love Thy Neighbour is not so funny these days, but other shows from the period are.

TDH is a bit slow. Thanks for explaining to him.
TallDarkAndHandsome
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TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 10 2017, 03:17 PM) *
You are a funny man. Can't stop with the insults can we? Shows you up for what you are.... #blowhard

If ever you want to meet for a "chat" let me know where and when.

Turin Machine
Guys! Gals! Let's not let this thing go nuclear now. Nothing wrong with a bit of baiting but don't let it get silly.
SirWilliam
Perhaps I could pen a new sit com ? " Love thy forum buddies " , or " Insulting Persons or Persons Unknown is Fun ". The list is endless , the material is there all I need is for BBC3 to bung me an advance and we will be up and running by xmas . Quite prepared to cut you in as a sign of gratitude for your contribution . cool.gif
newres
TDh - I’m not gay (not bothered that you are) but not interested in a “chat” as you term it. Thanks for the offer though. laugh.gif
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2017, 04:36 PM) *
TDh - I’m not gay (not bothered that you are) but not interested in a “chat” as you term it. Thanks for the offer though. laugh.gif

You seem fascinated by the term gay. You must be either gay yourself or a homophobic.
Andy Capp
I think you both should get a room. Give TDH a chance to punch his lights out! That'll learn 'im!
Turin Machine
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 10 2017, 06:52 PM) *
I think you both should get a room. Give TDH a chance to punch his lights out! That'll learn 'im!

Advocating violence? On line? Shoorly not?
SirWilliam
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 10 2017, 07:48 PM) *
Advocating violence? On line? Shoorly not?


Has anyone considered that they may just be two people head over heels in love and use this online slagging to detract the casual viewer from the truth .
But there again..........
Andy Capp
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 10 2017, 07:48 PM) *
Advocating violence? On line? Shoorly not?

Sometimes that’s the only way to sort out these irreconcilable tragedies.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (newres @ Nov 10 2017, 04:36 PM) *
TDh - I’m not gay (not bothered that you are) but not interested in a “chat” as you term it. Thanks for the offer though. laugh.gif

But he is, Tall, Dark and Handsome, how could a (yellow) dyed in the wool liberal possibly resist?
TallDarkAndHandsome
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 10 2017, 11:16 PM) *
But he is, Tall, Dark and Handsome, how could a (yellow) dyed in the wool liberal possibly resist?


Don't worry be happy.
je suis Charlie
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 12 2017, 06:04 PM) *
Don't worry be happy.

Go get your coat, I think you've pulled!
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