With the introduction of the biodegradable waste bags that can be put in either green or black bins, I understand that recyclables and non recyclables will be collected every other week. The one problem I see with this are people with pets like cats (of which there are a lot) who generate quite a lot of unuseful waste (litter trays). The black bins are going to hum after two weeks incubation! I wonder iif cat poo and pee constitutes food waste!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=17874

And nappies?!

We have 9month old twins, that produce a lot of nappies.

Where are we supposed to put these? Our standard black wheelie bin is often full to bursting each week, I can't see that moving the food waste into the green bin will help us!

Good point.

Bursting with poo, nice image....

I know that the Bi-weekly collection issue came up a year or two ago. We were assured that this would not happen..

Its a total joke that by giving us another plastic box to bin food would make any diffrerence... we already seperate out cardboard, glass and plastic, yet still need the weekly collection for the stuff that can be recycled. Nappies and pet waste needs to be taken away weekly..

It feels a little underhanded the way the council has managed to slip the news of the bi weekly collection into the information leaflet which was delivered during the bin collections this week.. They tried to spin this news by promoting the benifits of the silly brown food bin along with taking your green bin away every other week...

I'm thinking its yet another stupid idea that WBC have had... be honest with us WBC... we dont need sugar coated messaging... tell us the way it is...

Here, here.

And Government Minister Pickles was committed to restoring Weekly Collections, though
limp wristed Environment Minister he works alongside was vehemently against.

WBC you should take a poll of your client base before slipping such serious
changes through.

Gather some Euro Countries notionally working under same EU Diktats as UK, have daily
collections.

Will our MP speak out on issue.?
This affects every one of your constituents

For many of us, the weekly bin collection is only tangible return we
see for our Council Tax; will we now see large reduction?

It can be put in either, but will only be 'used' if you put it in the green bin.

What... effluence as well? It says food waste, I'm not sure that means animal waste as well!

No, you can't put **** in.

Food waste, not waste food post digestion.

Right, so we are back to where we were yesterday then!

This isn't going to work this happened ages ago to my parents in Northern Ireland and it hasn't worked there in belfast there is piles of bags left outside peoples houses causing rats and other rodents it has made ques at dumps as people has to go there to try and get rid of there waste it ridiculous they think it going to work here cause it wont !!!!! are bin is overflowed day or 2 before the bin gets emptied we have never been given a green bin and also no one if going to want there stinking garden waste in a bin in there kitchens IDIOTS !!!!!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=17894

You put the food waste in your green bin, not in your kitchen.

Why would you put garden waste in a bin in your kitchen?

It works fine, we've been doing it for years. We have a caddy in the kitchen with a sealed lid and all veg waste goes into it, and that gets emptied into a bucked with a lid on outside which is put on the compost heap weekly.

The problem is that bagged pooh can't go into the green bin because the bag is not bio-degradeable, and I suspect it will stink after two weeks in a hot black bin. I support the change because it sees less biodegradeable waste going to landfill, butWBC need to address the pooh-problem.

Most houses are already equiped with a facility for getting rid of ****.

Read the OP.

I did.

Therefore you would have seen that the issue is with 'effluent' disposal. Currently it is collected weekly. It looks like it will go fortnightly.

Flush it down the ****ter then.

Cat litter and nappies?

Speaking as a person who was born in the boomer years, My kids were terry nappied. And I was a dab hand with the
big pins.
Stuff went down the WC. the rest went into a Milton bucket waiting for a machine load.
I tried brewing ale after they had grown out of those times, never seemed to work sadly!.
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Aye... those were the days. It's not been the same since the changes...

Apparently there is a pressure group to persuade people to go back to using terry nappies. Environment, and all that.

OOoo yes, just like Nanny used to use !

"Grits teeth".
Sorry. I did the weekend shift. Live in Nanny did care for them. Nappies too!
Not Norland but college trained. And we had a Silver Cross pram.
Darn thing wouldn't fit through the door of the "Camden Head",on my shift.
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Yep. You use re-usable nappies. You hold the separate 'gusset' down the pan & flush. They come out almost clean. Drop the rest in the nappy bucket & wash, but be careful with the powder you use.

Train your cat to go outside. If it won't you fish out the turds & flush them down the pan.

I don't have any kids!


Neighbours love that.


I'm glad this is something I don't need to worry about as well!

OK, make the black bin collection bi-weekly, but PLEASE give us a suitable, bigger replacement for that useless green sack that we have to try and cram all our plastic and metal waste into.

You can try the following -

milk from the supermarkets comes in HDPE bottles - which has a low melting point. So, if you pour boiling water, strainght from the kettle into an empty bottle & swish the water around the HDPE will become soft. If you then quickly empty the hot water out ( but be careful! ), squash the bottle and plunge it under the cold tap, the plastic will 'set' in the squashed shape & take up far, far less space.

Taking aluminium to Tesco at Pinchington lane gets you 1 clubcard point for each can popped into their recycling 'machine'.

I just stand on all the tins and plastic milk bottles. Does the job.

milk bottles will slowly 'open' back out & take up more space. By applying heat, you reset the shape of the plastic.

So do I but I still find the green bag is not big enough what with all the plastic packaging you get from the supermarket.

Boiling water to be used how you describe wouldn't be my recommendation, especially with the spanners you get on here!

Also, how much damage are you doing to the environment by using electricity to boil water to re-shape plastic milk containers? Kind of defeats the object

It takes about a quarter of a cupful to soften the plastic. About the amount left in a kettle after making a cuppa.

You can't just put all the plastic you get from the supermarket in the green bag. Only certain types.

The thought had occured to me..........

Non-sequitur alert! The green sack collection has always been fortnightly

Who said it wasn't?

You seemed to be conflating it with the changes to the black bin collection. Hence the non-sequitur. I'll go back to sleep now.

Trouble is that the energy and chemicals (especially phosphates) used for washing negate any environmental gains.

Exactly, and while I like the bi-weekly collection which saves methane-genic bio-degradables going to landfil, the pooh-problem must be addressed.

There's the cat-litter and nappy issue already discussed, and there's the dog pooh problem too: Our dogs pooh in the garden, and we bag it up and put it in the black bin. It has to be picked up because otherwise it would be a health problem, and we don't have bio-degradable pooh-bags so it can't go in the green bin. It can't be flushed down the loo because again the bag isn't biodegradable and it would cause a blockage to the sewage system somewhere, and there isn't a satisfactory way of picking up the pooh in the garden and carrying it through the house to flush down the loo (and in any case flush toilets are not the most environmentally-friendly way of disposing of pooh).

Pooh will become insnitary after two weeks in a hot wheelie bin, so it is necessary for WBC to find an answer to this problem.

Yes... what will we do with our poo?


"Where does phoo come from dad?"

"Food passes down the oesophagus to the stomach, where digestive enzymes induce a probiotic reaction in the alimentary canal; this reaction extracts protein before waste products descend via the colon and rectum to emerge as poo."

"And what about Tigger?"

No. Crush cans flat, flatten plastic bottles and put the lid on. Loads of room

Just a thought,wasn't green bin collection stopped during the winter ?

During the winter there was a time where many people's bins weren't collected, but it wasn't a seasonal decision, more because of extraordinary weather conditions.

Like I said, I crush and flatten everything as much as I can and still there is not enough room in the infernal green plastic sack.
Lid??
I do put all plastic and metal for recycling in the bag and fill it twice over in 2 weeks..

Perhaps you need a vasectomy, or a diet?

Thanks for that piece of wise, invaluable advice!

Without wishing to question the nappy threads or even the vasectomy. Are there no recycling bins at supermarket carparks?
OK I understand we should all walk to our local shop....& carrying 50 cans of empty Strongbow is not everyone's cup of tea.

Someone mentioned a French system of major bins that all members of the commune used. I am not sure if that would work
in mainly urban areas. There is a lot more space in France.
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