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Aug 19 2015, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 19 2015, 08:15 PM) The Labour leadership is creating great interest. Who do you want to win and why? Do you think your choice will be enough to win in 2020? I would like Corbyn to lead Labour, none of the others get a look-in for me. I like his principles, and his manner. However, I don't know that I like his politics so I don't know if that makes Labour a viable option for me in 2020, and even if I do grow to like his politics (and I'm open to persuasion) that doesn't mean that I'll like the candidate that Labour field in Newbury. But yes, I think with Corbyn as Leader Labour could be electable. Socialism has a lot to recommend it and there's five years for Labour to sell its politics to us, and he's certainly the most plausible politician we've had for a very long time, and that might come as something of a breath of fresh air. In the end though I think Labour will rip itself apart in a power-struggle and this might just be Labour's last hurrah. There are some good sound sensible principled people in Labour, and some of their politics is viable and ethical, but there are also rather a lot of knuckle-dragging idiot-spawn who really would take us back to the 70's and the winter of discontent with their greed and indolence. I have no interest in a class-struggle (other than the occasional mockery of the middle class as prurient reactionary curtain-twitching establishment-apologists) and while I might find Corbyn interesting I would like to see what comes out of the woodwork if he is put in charge.
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Aug 19 2015, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 19 2015, 08:15 PM) The Labour leadership is creating great interest. Who do you want to win and why? Do you think your choice will be enough to win in 2020?
Who do you prefer out of Yvette Cooper, Jeremy Corbyn, Liz Kendall or Andy Burnham? Or do you prefer somebody else? Couldn't give a toss as long as it keeps them out of power.
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Aug 19 2015, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 19 2015, 10:57 PM) Corbyn, be like putting one of the Chuckle Brothers in charge. Make sure they never get reelected. I suspect the party will out-last him.
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Aug 20 2015, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 19 2015, 08:23 PM) I can't stick any of them, except I think Corbyn speaks well. On that front I agree with you. He's also handled the press very good.
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Aug 20 2015, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 19 2015, 10:49 PM) Couldn't give a toss as long as it keeps them out of power. Actually we should give a toss, even though we would never vote for a Labour party. All governments need strong oppositions, without strong oppositions you get weak, arrogant governments who think they can just push things through as they feel fit.
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Aug 20 2015, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 20 2015, 06:46 PM) All the candidates worry me, because it doesn't appear that any of them have ever done anything that could be construed as a real job. They are all 'professional' politicians. That is School / University / apprenticeship with some lobbying organisation / 'the Party' - then elected. Might not seem important, but they've never experienced much else other than Westminster. For me, the important thing would be to have a leader who espouses the basic principles and values of the Party - so that rules all the others out, save Corbyn. To be fair doesn't that apply to all MPs and all parties? None them know the real world.
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Aug 20 2015, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 20 2015, 07:26 PM) To be fair doesn't that apply to all MPs and all parties? None them know the real world. To some extent that's truest also a growing trend. There are still a number who worked in professions other than politics. Theresa May was in Banking, Michael Gove worked for a newspaper, Vince Cable an oil company.
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Aug 20 2015, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 20 2015, 07:32 PM) To some extent that's truest also a growing trend. There are still a number who worked in professions other than politics. Theresa May was in Banking, Michael Gove worked for a newspaper, Vince Cable an oil company. And they are real working man's jobs?
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Aug 20 2015, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (CrackerJack @ Aug 20 2015, 07:34 PM) Well you can't say he's a fair weather Labour politician. His second marriage hit the rocks and ended in divorce because his wife wanted one of their sons to go to Grammar School, which he strongly opposed. The more you read about him the more you think he ticks every cliche of what you'd imagine a Labour politician would be. There are few like him (maybe Ken Livingstone?). The irony here is that Corbyn, himself, also received a grammar school education, at the prestigious Adams school. His ex-wife obviously wanted, for their child, what was good enough for their father.
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