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Oct 3 2013, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Oct 2 2013, 09:19 PM) P'raps the local NEETs (young layabouts wot carnt be boverd wiv edkation, emploimunt or traynin) could be taken on a Beaters for the pheasant shooting season on the Englefield estate which just started yesterday? On a serious note why only under 25s? Why not everyone? Why the push on under 25s, most young people who are not in work desperately want to and are looking. There are a high proporition of under 25s still living at home with parents who can afford to take zero-hour jobs or part time work. However you can't just snap your fingers and employ people. There needs to be jobs to get jobs. There ARE jobs out there. But there are not enough to go around. Youth unemployment has dropped significantly in the last few years - Already without the governments push. While companies create positions and young people who get jobs through good interview abilities, a will to learn and the relevant qualifications/experience, the government take credit when really they have done nothing. They should scrap their 2 year benefit thing, reduce it to 1 year and apply that globally to everyone. Fed up of the toss-pot Cameron picking on Youths. When he's old in a care home I hope he wees himself.
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Oct 3 2013, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Oct 3 2013, 10:03 AM) On a serious note why only under 25s? Why not everyone? Quite right. Trouble this is one of those issues bedevilled by emotion so logic goes out of the window. Without taking anyone's role in the workforce, we all know there are lots of things that would be very useful to our community - if only we had the money to pay. For the most part money equals resource. We just need a little imagination. The works needed would necessarily include planning and administration, so it's not just physical manual labour. For instance, we could have the Control Tower at Greenham turned into a fantastic facility, for very little extra cost. That would also bring some pride back - not 'I'm unemployed' more 'I'm on the Greenham Project at the moment'. Yes, this SHOULD involve everyone, and the sad thing is, it so easily could. We'd then turn the lemon of unemployment into lemonade!
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Oct 3 2013, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Oct 3 2013, 10:03 AM) On a serious note why only under 25s? Why not everyone? Why the push on under 25s, most young people who are not in work desperately want to and are looking. There are a high proporition of under 25s still living at home with parents who can afford to take zero-hour jobs or part time work. However you can't just snap your fingers and employ people. There needs to be jobs to get jobs. There ARE jobs out there. But there are not enough to go around. Youth unemployment has dropped significantly in the last few years - Already without the governments push. While companies create positions and young people who get jobs through good interview abilities, a will to learn and the relevant qualifications/experience, the government take credit when really they have done nothing. They should scrap their 2 year benefit thing, reduce it to 1 year and apply that globally to everyone. Fed up of the toss-pot Cameron picking on Youths. When he's old in a care home I hope he wees himself. The single farm payment is an EU benefit which the Tories wouldn't change. The rest of Europe were pushing for change recently. It was the UK and Germany that resisted. Aside from that, plenty of Tory MPs get it directly or indirectly (I don't know of any Labour MPs that do, but sure there must be a few). IDS is slashing benefits for the poor whilst his family are in receipt of a £3K a week benefit that costs every UK taxpayer £300 a year. He's a hypocrite of man who wants kicking not reelection at the next GE. With people like that in power, it's no surprise that Cameron lied to us all about giving us a referendum on EU membership. Benyons family were geting £3K a week too - probably still are, but now the figures are kept secret. The EU has just become a conduit for the parasites at the top to fleece us all. Then they set the low-paid against the unemployed, to deflect attention from who are really the greedy exploiters. The Tories really are a revolting political party now. They've become a feudal parody of what they used to be. And no, I'm not a Labour supporter. Labour created a lot of the mess over the past few years too.
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Oct 4 2013, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2013, 12:15 AM) Thanks for that So the EU redacts information on 94% of the UK beneficiaries of CAP, representing 74% of the CAP funds distributed in the UK. (2009/10 figures) Some wealthy British landowners are getting some HUGE state benefits. I bet you will find many of them (or close relatives, or beneficiaries of the trusts) in the taxpayer-subsidised bars and restaurants of the Houses of Parliament. But then, we aren't allowed to know, anymore, are we? Very nice if your ancestor was chummy with William the Conqueror, or stole the land from the peasants with the Enclosures Acts, and passed the land down to you. Such landowners no doubt regard themselves as 'deserving'. So instead, lets kick the under-25 unemployed while they are in the gutter. Even though the benefits they get are a fraction of that of the CAP.
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Oct 5 2013, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 5 2013, 09:39 AM) Hear, hear. I understand our Mr Benyon MP's department were only too happy to exaggerate the EU ruling. How about looking in to beneficiaries of farm subsidies then? Benyon, IDS, et al would really happy to be plantation owners. And the slaves (workfare agricultural workers, or under-25s denied state benefits) would still have to pay taxes like VAT and NI to pay for the plantation owners CAP benefits. The way these overpriviliged parasites are treating the poor - I can't really find words to express my revulsion now. I hear that Benyons home (I think inherited without inheritance tax, either due to it being in a trust, or agricultural land excaping death duties) has 22 bedrooms. So a man living on land with a 22-bedroomed home gets state benefits for occupying it. Nice work if you can get it. Except that it doesn't even involve doing a stroke of work to get the benefit. Sickening.
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Oct 5 2013, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (DJE @ Oct 5 2013, 06:56 PM) Benyon, IDS, et al would really happy to be plantation owners. And the slaves (workfare agricultural workers, or under-25s denied state benefits) would still have to pay taxes like VAT and NI to pay for the plantation owners CAP benefits.
The way these overpriviliged parasites are treating the poor - I can't really find words to express my revulsion now.
I hear that Benyons home (I think inherited without inheritance tax, either due to it being in a trust, or agricultural land excaping death duties) has 22 bedrooms.
So a man living on land with a 22-bedroomed home gets state benefits for occupying it. Nice work if you can get it. Except that it doesn't even involve doing a stroke of work to get the benefit.
Sickening. What State Benefits are they, then?
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Oct 5 2013, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 5 2013, 08:45 PM) All the talk on reforming Europe used to centre on reform of the agricultural policy! That's gone remarkably silent and all we want to do now is rid ourselves of the Human Rights Charter and such things as the working hours directives. I have been wondering why. Up the ruling classes!!! CAP is still very much on the Agenda. As, it seems, is expanding the Union by shipping in more 'less well off' countries. Albania is the next target.....
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Oct 5 2013, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 5 2013, 09:11 PM) CAP is still very much on the Agenda. As, it seems, is expanding the Union by shipping in more 'less well off' countries. Albania is the next target..... Not mentioned by Mr Cameron or his followers though is it? No, best keep quiet about that one.
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