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post Aug 11 2009, 07:59 AM
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Morning Gang.
I want to raise the issue of Capital Punishment just onec more.

Have any of you read the harrowing story of baby Peter in the papers today?
If so you will be as sickened as me about the evil people who inflicted this terror on a defencless child. Not only that but their horrendous back-cataloge of despicable crimes like the rape of a two year old.
Surely you all must agree that there are circumstances when the death penalty should be imposed to protect society from these animals.
I am totally sicked by what I have read and a amazed how low society is falling to have allowed all this to take place. sad.gif


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post Aug 11 2009, 08:04 AM
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I suspect you will get a similar reply and doubt this incident will change opinion. For me, I find it disturbing that people can go about their lives for so long before something happens, or is done about them. Sure, I think these people should be appropriately dealt with, but I would imagine there are a lot of people looking in their hands at the moment as well. Another regrettable feature of this wickedness, its that it can adversely affect 'innocent' families also. We can only hope that systems are changed to prevent this sort of thing happening again, but I doubt it.
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post Aug 11 2009, 08:09 AM
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I for one think it's disgusting that the most they will serve is 12 years, then once they get released, they will be given different identities to allow them to get on with their lives. Not only did they commit this terrible crime, but they had a history of serious crimes in the past. They should have been given life without parole, since we don't have the death penalty over here. 'nuff said.
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post Aug 11 2009, 08:29 AM
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These people are basically so evil, that I can see no hope of them ever being safe to be allowed to live free again.
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post Aug 11 2009, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE (Sarah @ Aug 11 2009, 09:29 AM) *
These people are basically so evil, that I can see no hope of them ever being safe to be allowed to live free again.

Exactly. Keep them locked up until they are no longer a danger to society.
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post Aug 11 2009, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (Sarah @ Aug 11 2009, 09:29 AM) *
These people are basically so evil, that I can see no hope of them ever being safe to be allowed to live free again.


But they will be free after some namby pamby liberalist lobby group explains it was 'circumstances' and they have 'changed'.

I personally think they should have their backs broken or spinal cords cut so they never walk again.
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post Aug 11 2009, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 11 2009, 09:04 AM) *
I suspect you will get a similar reply and doubt this incident will change opinion. For me, I find it disturbing that people can go about their lives for so long before something happens, or is done about them. Sure, I think these people should be appropriately dealt with, but I would imagine there are a lot of people looking in their hands at the moment as well. Another regrettable feature of this wickedness, its that it can adversely affect 'innocent' families also. We can only hope that systems are changed to prevent this sort of thing happening again, but I doubt it.

Is that the extent of your outrage on this subject?
I think it a little "luke warm" but you are entitled to your view.
Unless people become more insistant that the penalties for crimes are ramped up and spend less time hoping they do then you're right, things won't change.


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post Aug 11 2009, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 11 2009, 09:34 AM) *
But they will be free after some namby pamby liberalist lobby group explains it was 'circumstances' and they have 'changed'.

I personally think they should have their backs broken or spinal cords cut so they never walk again.

Hopefully they will benefit from some counciling from their fellow inmates.
I beleive that some of them have pretty strong views on child killers and molesters.
Lets hope so!!


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post Aug 11 2009, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 11 2009, 09:34 AM) *
But they will be free after some namby pamby liberalist lobby group explains it was 'circumstances' and they have 'changed'.

I personally think they should have their backs broken or spinal cords cut so they never walk again.

Hopefully they will benefit from some counciling from their fellow inmates.
I beleive that some of them have pretty strong views on child killers and molesters.
Lets hope so!!


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post Aug 11 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Andrea @ Aug 11 2009, 09:09 AM) *
I for one think it's disgusting that the most they will serve is 12 years, then once they get released, they will be given different identities to allow them to get on with their lives. Not only did they commit this terrible crime, but they had a history of serious crimes in the past. They should have been given life without parole, since we don't have the death penalty over here. 'nuff said.



The trouble is they won't serve 12 years; they'll be out in less time so that they can abuse other children.
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:08 AM
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If I had my way they wouldn't be locked up at all.

Just chain them to a post in a public place with a placard indentifying them and let things occur as they most surely would, only very slowly.

I know this may seem barbaric but to call these people animals would be unjust to animals.

Every time I see my little lad smile and then poor Peter's face on TV or the paper attempting to do the same I just cant bear it.

May the never know peace and suffer for eternity!
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Aug 11 2009, 12:08 PM) *
If I had my way they wouldn't be locked up at all.

Just chain them to a post in a public place with a placard indentifying them and let things occur as they most surely would, only very slowly.

I know this may seem barbaric but to call these people animals would be unjust to animals.

Every time I see my little lad smile and then poor Peter's face on TV or the paper attempting to do the same I just cant bear it.

May the never know peace and suffer for eternity!


If you did it in Newbury Town centre on a Friday or Staurday night at least you would know the Police would not be bothering you!!!! wink.gif
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 11 2009, 12:10 PM) *
If you did it in Newbury Town centre on a Friday or Staurday night at least you would know the Police would not be bothering you!!!! wink.gif

More police bashing?
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 11 2009, 12:10 PM) *
If you did it in Newbury Town centre on a Friday or Staurday night at least you would know the Police would not be bothering you!!!! wink.gif



Irrelevant TD&H and not a subject to be flippant about either I'm afraid.
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post Aug 11 2009, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Aug 11 2009, 12:36 PM) *
Irrelevant TD&H and not a subject to be flippant about either I'm afraid.


I was not being 'flippant'. Strewth give me strength. angry.gif
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post Aug 11 2009, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 11 2009, 01:39 PM) *
I was not being 'flippant'. Strewth give me strength. angry.gif



That is how it came accross.
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post Aug 11 2009, 02:21 PM
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One can not help but see the knee jerk reaction applied by the well meaning, but somewhat naive contributors.
If capital punishment was still on the statute books it wouldn't have prevented this, or any other recent atrocity , occurring. What it would have done is appeased the conscience of the masses so they could sleep at night in the belief that justice has been served.
It is a strange sort of society that issues licences to breed other species but allows anyone with the necessary "bits" to not only bring life into this world , but a free hand to remove it ,before action is taken.
My views may be simplistic , but the judicial system won't prevent these tragedies , that is down to each individual.


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post Aug 11 2009, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Aug 11 2009, 03:21 PM) *
One can not help but see the knee jerk reaction applied by the well meaning, but somewhat naive contributors.
This response is smug, pretentious and patronising. It is clear that you may not care about this innocent child but other contributors do.

If capital punishment was still on the statute books it wouldn't have prevented this, or any other recent atrocity , occurring. What it would have done is appeased the conscience of the masses so they could sleep at night in the belief that justice has been served.

How do you know? Just another inappropriate remark.


It is a strange sort of society that issues licences to breed other species but allows anyone with the necessary "bits" to not only bring life into this world , but a free hand to remove it ,before action is taken.

I agree with you on this but I want to do something about it not sit back and accept it.


My views may be simplistic , but the judicial system won't prevent these tragedies , that is down to each individual.

Yes your view is simplistic and the whole point of a judicial system is to protect the innocent.



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post Aug 11 2009, 03:03 PM
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I've just seen the Sky News report on these people. The mother, when released, will get a stylist and a personal trainer! I can't believe it! And WE'RE paying for this!

And she'll still be young enough to have more children too...
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post Aug 11 2009, 03:07 PM
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I'm with Bloggo on this,

To be honest, I know some people think that the death penalty may not prevent some of these things from happening, (I actually think it would, as this may be the only thing that gets through some of those twisted minds) but it would stop them from being released in a few years with new identities to live a free life, which none of them deserve.


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