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Penelope
post Nov 27 2012, 10:01 PM
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Nov 27 2012, 09:02 PM) *
Politics shouldn't be bought into the equation when talking about adopting or looking after children.


So, (to take your argument to it's ultimate conclusion), people who join the Klu Klux Klan should be given black children to foster? (and yes, I do realise that the KKK are not UKIP, but it was you who made the generalised statement).
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:40 PM
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Just seen an interview on BBC News with this hapless couple.

Faces out of shot, and voiced by actors.

"We don't know much about politics"

No wonder they joined UKIP.
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Nov 27 2012, 10:40 PM) *
Just seen an interview on BBC News with this hapless couple.

Faces out of shot, and voiced by actors.

"We don't know much about politics"

No wonder they joined UKIP.



Yeah but they used to support labour, which is possibly more meaningful.
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post Nov 27 2012, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Nov 27 2012, 10:31 PM) *
So, (to take your argument to it's ultimate conclusion), people who join the Klu Klux Klan should be given black children to foster? (and yes, I do realise that the KKK are not UKIP, but it was you who made the generalised statement).

That's stupid. The KKK believe that blacks are lesser people and should be killed. It's an underground organisation who operate outside of the law. UKIP are a legitimate political party who don't believe we have an open border system in Europe.
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post Nov 27 2012, 11:23 PM
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Just trying to understand the arguements. So it's ok to give children of European Immigrants to people who believe they shouldn't be here?
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post Nov 27 2012, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 27 2012, 11:06 PM) *
UKIP are a legitimate political party


So are the BNP. Should we give them ethnic childern to foster and then not be concerned?
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post Nov 28 2012, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Nov 27 2012, 11:35 PM) *
So are the BNP. Should we give them ethnic childern to foster and then not be concerned?

Certainly. They are cheap, and after a while can perform most mundane household tasks passably. Far more economical than an au pair.
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post Nov 28 2012, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (Spider @ Nov 27 2012, 10:08 PM) *
No, of course not. Europe is our future and working with our European partners is the only thing we've got. I say crush those that want to go against the grain.


Er, that would be you then...

Opinion polls show that the vast majority are in favour of leaving the EU.
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post Nov 28 2012, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (Spider @ Nov 27 2012, 10:08 PM) *
No, of course not. Europe is our future and working with our European partners is the only thing we've got. I say crush those that want to go against the grain.


Er, that would be you then...

Opinion polls show that the vast majority are in favour of leaving the EU.
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post Nov 28 2012, 08:50 AM
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I wonder if such consideration is given to other political affiliations. For instance, not sure if I'd want kids left with Labour supporters. Would be OK for basics, but they would not encourage the children to try and meet their personal potential. Would be even more tricky with LibDem supporters; you'd never know if what the adopters said was true or just made up so you'd let them adopt.


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post Nov 28 2012, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Nov 28 2012, 08:04 AM) *
Opinion polls show that the vast majority are in favour of leaving the EU.


That can of worms again. Are you saying the majority are naturally correct just because they are the majority?
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post Nov 28 2012, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (FactFile @ Nov 28 2012, 08:55 AM) *
That can of worms again. Are you saying the majority are naturally correct just because they are the majority?

And what 'vast majority'.
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:23 AM
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Surveys and polling results I've seen suggest that most people believe the concept of a free Europe to be a good thing, particularly trade, travel and currency. The big issue as always is politics; and getting that put right. There are movements in most EU Countries that want to do the same, simplify the structure, make it efficient, make it economic. Regrettably, in UK we only have two options, its either the Tory pull out or the LibDem stay in and shut up. The sensible and probably only viable option would be to stay in, but properly join in, with similar minded European groups and get it put right.

If we are to survive as a trading nation economically, another alternative is to re constitute the Commonwealth / Empire and realistically, that won't happen. So if that's out, we would simply stand wholly on our own; given our size and that we've trashed our productive capability, that would work wouldn't it!


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post Nov 28 2012, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 28 2012, 10:23 AM) *
Surveys and polling results I've seen suggest that most people believe the concept of a free Europe to be a good thing, particularly trade, travel and currency. The big issue as always is politics; and getting that put right. There are movements in most EU Countries that want to do the same, simplify the structure, make it efficient, make it economic. Regrettably, in UK we only have two options, its either the Tory pull out or the LibDem stay in and shut up. The sensible and probably only viable option would be to stay in, but properly join in, with similar minded European groups and get it put right.

If we are to survive as a trading nation economically, another alternative is to re constitute the Commonwealth / Empire and realistically, that won't happen. So if that's out, we would simply stand wholly on our own; given our size and that we've trashed our productive capability, that would work wouldn't it!

We'd end up like the Swiss, but on an island.
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Nov 28 2012, 10:25 AM) *
We'd end up like the Swiss, but on an island.


Anyone round here actually tried living in Switzerland but on a low income?


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post Nov 28 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 28 2012, 11:12 AM) *
Anyone round here actually tried living in Switzerland but on a low income?

you see what I mean - that's how we'd end up.....
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (FactFile @ Nov 28 2012, 08:55 AM) *
That can of worms again. Are you saying the majority are naturally correct just because they are the majority?


No, but the point of the democracy is that it's based on the rule of the majority.
Anything other than that and you would end up like Russia or the Chinese.......


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post Nov 28 2012, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 28 2012, 12:34 PM) *
No, but the point of the democracy is that it's based on the rule of the majority.

theoretically at least.
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post Nov 28 2012, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Nov 28 2012, 12:41 PM) *
theoretically at least.


At the end of the day its only right wing extremist nutters who would vote for a party like UKIP. They should not even be allowed to vote if thats how they think. Lets get behind Europe and join the EURO.
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