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The Death penalty; yes or no |
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Aug 2 2009, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE (Wicca @ Aug 2 2009, 11:25 PM) I think in some cases the death penalty is the best course of action, but they need to be judged case by case individually and not as a sweeping judgement. I agree.
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Aug 2 2009, 10:38 PM
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No. When unsure I usually say no, unless it's last orders, but I have to ask first, what is the purpose of the death penalty? QUOTE (Wicca @ Aug 2 2009, 11:25 PM) I think in some cases the death penalty is the best course of action, but they need to be judged case by case individually and not as a sweeping judgement. Interestingly, I understand that the Death Penalty works best as a deterrent when it is unconditional.
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Aug 3 2009, 07:33 AM
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No. (I think NWN have a monopoly on polls, on the home page . Try something like "Do you think it will rain tomorrow?" and see if you get away with that.)
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Aug 3 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 3 2009, 10:41 AM) Funny that some of those who are saying yes are those who think the Police, or Courts & Judicial System does not do a good job..............
With no chance of a meaningful pardon killing someone for a crime is a punishment too far. So? I thought the Police, courts, etc weren't doing a good enough job because they weren't strict enough. I don't see what your point is? Pardon me for being a bit extreme here... but if someone raped and murdered your child, would you be okay with that person living out the rest of their life in prison where they will live a rather cushy prison life? It's that sort of thing that I would want the death penalty for.
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Aug 3 2009, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 3 2009, 10:41 AM) Funny that some of those who are saying yes are those who think the Police, or Courts & Judicial System does not do a good job..............
With no chance of a meaningful pardon killing someone for a crime is a punishment too far. You mean people like the Moor murderers, child abusers, serial killers etc should have a 'meaningful pardon,' or at least the chance of a 'meaningful pardon'?
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Aug 3 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (Andrea @ Aug 3 2009, 10:48 AM) So? I thought the Police, courts, etc weren't doing a good enough job because they weren't strict enough. I don't see what your point is?
Pardon me for being a bit extreme here... but if someone raped and murdered your child, would you be okay with that person living out the rest of their life in prison where they will live a rather cushy prison life?
It's that sort of thing that I would want the death penalty for. Could you ever be sure the Police, Jury, Judge had got it right? Take the cases of - Steven Downing & Stefan Kisko. Both victims serious miscarriges of justice, both innocent & both having endured over a decade in prison. And prison is not 'cushy'.
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Aug 3 2009, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 3 2009, 10:52 AM) You mean people like the Moor murderers, child abusers, serial killers etc should have a 'meaningful pardon,' or at least the chance of a 'meaningful pardon'? Serial killers end up in secure hospitals. They are mentally ill. You don't kill someone for being ill. You seem to be assuming that the Courts & Police always get it right, so it would be safe to string 'em up.
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Aug 3 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 3 2009, 11:14 AM) Could you ever be sure the Police, Jury, Judge had got it right?
Take the cases of - Steven Downing & Stefan Kisko. Both victims serious miscarriges of justice, both innocent & both having endured over a decade in prison.
And prison is not 'cushy'. In comparison to prison in other countries, UK prison life is cushy. and I would only agree with the death sentence if there was not a single percent of doubt that the person was guilty.
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Aug 3 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (Andrea @ Aug 3 2009, 11:22 AM) In comparison to prison in other countries, UK prison life is cushy.
and I would only agree with the death sentence if there was not a single percent of doubt that the person was guilty. Prison life is comparative no? A bit like comparing having a hand chopped off to having a finger chopped off. Both not nice, but one preferable to the other. I'd suggest that having to spend 24/7 with a group of people, many rejected & forgotten by society would not be cushy at all.
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Aug 3 2009, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 3 2009, 11:47 AM) Prison life is comparative no? A bit like comparing having a hand chopped off to having a finger chopped off. Both not nice, but one preferable to the other. I'd suggest that having to spend 24/7 with a group of people, many rejected & forgotten by society would not be cushy at all. From everything I've heard, the only thing not cushy about prison is that you're not allowed to leave until your sentence is up. They have a lot of comforts in prison that the average joe in the world can't afford.
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