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“Irreplaceable” gargoyles stolen from Newbury building |
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Sep 28 2012, 02:53 PM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2012/irrepla...ewbury-buildingIn the headline and the article the reporter uses quotation marks around 'irreplaceable' - presumably because he doesn't believe the 'gargoyles' are irreplaceable. So I wonder why he uses the word at all? I have also used quotation marks around 'gargoyles' because, of course, the dragons were not gargoyles at all but finials. If the owners want to replace them they could consider: http://www.rooffinials.co.uk/dragon-finial...gon-finial.htmlIf a more accurate replacement is wanted I am sure they could find a potter who would make some to the original design (picture below).
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Sep 28 2012, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Sep 28 2012, 03:53 PM) In the headline and the article the reporter uses quotation marks around 'irreplaceable' - presumably because he doesn't believe the 'gargoyles' are irreplaceable. No, I don't interpret it that way at all. That would be a shorthand way of reporting something that someone else had said to you, rather than your own words.
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Sep 28 2012, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 28 2012, 03:58 PM) No, I don't interpret it that way at all. That would be a shorthand way of reporting something that someone else had said to you, rather than your own words. I agree that he is probably reporting what someone has told him - but I read the quotation marks as distancing the reporter from the use of the word - because he is, at the least, uncertain of its accuracy. I should also have noted in the OP that I would shed few tears were those who nicked them to fall off the next roof they are robbing.
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Sep 28 2012, 03:16 PM
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Here's a nice one. The site also mentions what I also understand to be the oorigin of the finial - that it was to prevent witches (I understood the devil, but close enough) sitting on the end of your roof. In a similar vein, holly trees were allowed to grow up in hedges so that witches couldn't get a free run along the top of the hedge.
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Sep 28 2012, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 28 2012, 06:03 PM) That's an old picture, Nature's Corner moved a few doors down years ago. But has the spelling improved?
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Sep 28 2012, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Sep 28 2012, 06:13 PM) But has the spelling improved? Depends how many natures and how many corners.
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Sep 28 2012, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Sep 28 2012, 04:05 PM) I agree that he is probably reporting what someone has told him - but I read the quotation marks as distancing the reporter from the use of the word - because he is, at the least, uncertain of its accuracy.
I should also have noted in the OP that I would shed few tears were those who nicked them to fall off the next roof they are robbing. I was taught at school that " ..." was the sign for quotation and ' .... ' was a sign of irony. Mind you it was a few years ago since I attended school so the rules may have changed.
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Sep 28 2012, 06:42 PM
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Gargoyles , grotesques , finials ? As they have been removed by person or persons unknown we shall never know . Perhaps the perpetrator could contact this forum and enlighten us .
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Sep 28 2012, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 28 2012, 07:26 PM) Gargoyles are water spouts; if no water flows through them then they are grotesques. Architecturally speaking they're finials, sitting on the end of the ridge at the top of the gable, and yes, as gargoyle-like ornaments that aren't actually water spouts they're grotesques.
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Oct 1 2012, 06:54 PM
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My email and phone number accompany the piece, should anyone want to ask me anything, or correct anything. I have made that point before on here but strangely no one ever bothers... no idea why, I don't bite "irreplaceable" was a quote - who am I to say they are irreplaceable? To the owner they are, so that is how I have described them, and also how Thames Valley Police described them: http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/yournh-t...sitem?id=231554Hope this clears it up.
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Oct 1 2012, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (Mark NWN @ Oct 1 2012, 07:54 PM) My email and phone number accompany the piece, should anyone want to ask me anything, or correct anything. I have made that point before on here but strangely no one ever bothers... no idea why, I don't bite "irreplaceable" was a quote - who am I to say they are irreplaceable? To the owner they are, so that is how I have described them, and also how Thames Valley Police described them: http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/yournh-t...sitem?id=231554Hope this clears it up. It's not clear from the photo, but in the interests of annoyingly obscure pedantry, I would question whether the creature of the story's finial is actually a dragon. There were dragon finials, but I think these might have been wyverns, like this magnificent one: (this one appears to have replaceable wings)
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Oct 1 2012, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Mark NWN @ Oct 1 2012, 07:54 PM) "irreplaceable" was a quote - who am I to say they are irreplaceable? To the owner they are, so that is how I have described them, and also how Thames Valley Police described them: Mark, some (the rest?) of us realized what was meant - see my post #2.
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Oct 2 2012, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Oct 1 2012, 08:45 PM) It's not clear from the photo, but in the interests of annoyingly obscure pedantry, I would question whether the creature of the story's finial is actually a dragon. There were dragon finials, but I think these might have been wyverns, like this magnificent one: (this one appears to have replaceable wings) Possibly a 'Chimera' could be a better description?
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