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May 28 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 04:23 PM) Sort the welfare state, limit benefits and the problem will mend itself. Scrub tax credits. and that will stop them dropping litter?
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May 28 2012, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ May 28 2012, 05:03 PM) and that will stop them dropping litter? It will stop the wrong people having kids, so yes.
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May 28 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:04 PM) It will stop the wrong people having kids, so yes. I'm not sure, the more impoverished a society is, the more kids they have it seems. Think Africa or Asia for examples.
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May 28 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 04:23 PM) Sort the welfare state, limit benefits and the problem will mend itself. Scrub tax credits. Do you get child benefit for that kid of yours by any chance?
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May 28 2012, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ May 28 2012, 05:06 PM) Do you get child benefit for that kid of yours by any chance? Refere to my child in the correct tone and I may answer, until then I will ignore you. Thanks
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May 28 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:07 PM) Refere to my child in the correct tone and I may answer, until then I will ignore you.
Thanks I think what he meant to say was "do you get child benefit for that son of yours"
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May 28 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:07 PM) Refere to my child in the correct tone and I may answer, until then I will ignore you.
Thanks but didn't you display the same tone when you referred to council tenants?
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May 28 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:04 PM) It will stop the wrong people having kids, so yes. Have you ever been to the members enclosure at any race meeting? All the Bentley's, Aston Martins, even a Rolls or two in the car park,ladies and gents in designer wear. They have their champagne and caviar picnics in the car park and the aftermath remains there on the ground. Inside they place their bets and the used tickets and mounds of champagne bottles on the floor. On the other hand, look at some gypsy/traveller sites after the occupants have departed. Mounds of litter left for someone else to clear. Both rich and poor; young, middle aged and elderly; oxbridge educated and poorly educated; mansion house and council house occupants are capable of dropping litter.
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May 28 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ May 28 2012, 05:16 PM) I think what he meant to say was "do you get child benefit for that son of yours" At present child benefit is a universal benefit paid to parents of all children, and yes my son does qualify for it. We do not however need to rely on housing benefit, child tax credits, council tax benefit, free school meals etc etc. The benefits that people having large numbers of children seem to claim in large quantities. We can afford our child without any help, it would be a better country if everyone else could.
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May 28 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ May 28 2012, 05:17 PM) but didn't you display the same tone when you referred to council tenants? Yes, but he also said "do as I say, not as I do"
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May 28 2012, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:20 PM) We can afford our child without any help, it would be a better country if everyone else could. Quite agree, it would be a much improved country if people all had jobs and salaries that paid a living wage for a working week. Sadly this is not the case at the present time and I cannot see that changing in the near future. You are very fortunate that you have a job that enables you to support your son without recourse to the welfare state. Lets hope you keep your job throughout the recession.
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May 28 2012, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ May 28 2012, 05:28 PM) Quite agree, it would be a much improved country if people all had jobs and salaries that paid a living wage for a working week. Sadly this is not the case at the present time and I cannot see that changing in the near future. You are very fortunate that you have a job that enables you to support your son without recourse to the welfare state. Lets hope you keep your job throughout the recession. There is a difference between a working family receiving a small top up, to a family of six kids where neither parent has a full time job.
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May 28 2012, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:31 PM) There is a difference between a working family receiving a small top up, to a family of six kids where neither parent has a full time job. Yup, agreed.
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May 28 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:31 PM) There is a difference between a working family receiving a small top up, to a family of six kids where neither parent has a full time job. I never said there wasn't. I was agreeing with your comment 'We can afford our child without any help, it would be a better country if everyone else could.'
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May 28 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:20 PM) At present child benefit is a universal benefit paid to parents of all children, and yes my son does qualify for it. We do not however need to rely on housing benefit, child tax credits, council tax benefit, free school meals etc etc. The benefits that people having large numbers of children seem to claim in large quantities. We can afford our child without any help, it would be a better country if everyone else could. Andy, That is very true, but unfortunately, the chances are not possible for everyone. Yes, there are a distinct number of rogues, but that is true of all groups. But I'm sure the vast majority of those in benefit would rather not be. I for one, consider myself a very fortunate man, in that I can claim as you, I have achieved all have for me and mine, by me. Have you by any chance got to where you are from a seriously deprived background?
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May 28 2012, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 28 2012, 05:31 PM) There is a difference between a working family receiving a small top up, to a family of six kids where neither parent has a full time job. So there could be two people unable to find work.
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May 28 2012, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ May 28 2012, 05:48 PM) How much is child benefit these days? £20.30 for the first child and £13.40 for each additional child.
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