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Dr Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Politics? |
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Jun 9 2011, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 9 2011, 11:47 AM) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13706710Personally I don't believe that Church leaders should interfere with politics. They should concentrate on serving God and the people who worship him (or her). Why not, he has a voice as well and the same liberties. Quite frankly I think it's a good thing people speak up, regardless of the sector of public life they are in..
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Jun 9 2011, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 9 2011, 11:47 AM) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13706710Personally I don't believe that Church leaders should interfere with politics. They should concentrate on serving God and the people who worship him (or her). I personally believe God made politics!
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Jun 10 2011, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 9 2011, 11:47 AM) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13706710Personally I don't believe that Church leaders should interfere with politics. They should concentrate on serving God and the people who worship him (or her). You create a false dichotomy. Rowan Williams was speaking out on social issues, just as the church always has. It's worth asking why the opposition hasn't done the same.
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Jun 11 2011, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 11 2011, 12:01 AM) Don't get prophets and profits mixed up will you ? I have been told by a person that deals with them , that they certainly don't.
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Jun 12 2011, 12:55 PM
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Supporting the systematic rape of children put something of a dint in the standing of the church, and any organisation predicated on an entirely bogus premise in order to operate an after-life protection racket has a shaky moral foundation, and yet for over a thousand years the church has been at the centre of the nation's political life. It's true that sectarianism has been at the bottom of national strife for half of that time, that social reform has more often than not been lead by non-conformists in outright opposition to the established church, and that the established church has blessed, and often actively participated in the nation's most heinous offences against morality, but yet the church still has standing. Whatever the basis of his belief, I'd rather Rowan Williams influenced the debate with a considered and intelligent observation because, much as I'd prefer to disestablish the church and live in a humanist state, we don't yet have much in the way of humanist moral authority, and while I'd vote for Alain de Botton to be Archbishop, it's the likes of Wayne Rooney and Jordan that have more influence.
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Jun 12 2011, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 12 2011, 01:55 PM) ......and while I'd vote for Alain de Botton to be Archbishop,..... Is he not Jewish?, that might present a small problem.
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Jun 12 2011, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Jun 12 2011, 03:21 PM) Is he not Jewish?, that might present a small problem. Wasn't Jesus? Anyroad, I was thinking about the role as a moral-guardian-in-chief in a humanist state, not as a religious role.
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Jun 12 2011, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 12 2011, 03:58 PM) Anyroad, I was thinking about the role as a moral-guardian-in-chief in a humanist state, not as a religious role. Archbishop is not a religious role? Fair enough.
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