 Benefits of party politics at parish level..., (is there any?) |
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 Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM
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On the allotment thread, party politics within town and p[arish councils was raised. It got me thinking, what benefit (if any) does party politics bring to the table at parish level?
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Mar 22 2011, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM)  On the allotment thread, party politics within town and p[arish councils was raised. It got me thinking, what benefit (if any) does party politics bring to the table at parish level? Everyone sings from the same hymn sheet. |
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Mar 22 2011, 07:08 PM
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anyway, what is 'Dogma Attitude' & what is meant by 'No Vested Interests'?
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Mar 22 2011, 07:56 PM
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In loose terms, with party politics one should be able to understand what a candidate stands for, and what their political philosophy is. Obviously, there is no absolutes and there is a certain amount of over-lap; especially these days.
A party can 'tame' a candidate, but whether that is a good idea all the time is another matter. |
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Mar 22 2011, 08:55 PM
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Party should give you an idea of whether the candidate is reactionary or radical, bourgeois or socialist, but it doesn't tell you if they're decent, devisive, or mad as a box of frogs. It also gives them something petty to squabble over.
-------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 22 2011, 09:47 PM
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Do you think Hungerford Town Council is better for being apolitical?
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Mar 22 2011, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 22 2011, 09:47 PM) Do you think Hungerford Town Council is better for being apolitical? It certainly makes the allotments expensive. |
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Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM
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What benefits are there to party politics at district level?
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Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM) What benefits are there to party politics at district level? Party support for things like canvassing and other labour intensive chores. |
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Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 PM) What benefits are there to party politics at district level? What benefits are there at national level? |
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Mar 22 2011, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM) Labour, intensive chores. surely..... |
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Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 22 2011, 11:16 PM) What benefits are there at national level? Any level!!!! |
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Mar 23 2011, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM) Any level!!!! The ultimate conclusion if we keep going at this rate is what is the benefit of any western democracy. |
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Mar 23 2011, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 08:21 PM) The ultimate conclusion if we keep going at this rate is what is the benefit of any western democracy. I don't agree with that. Sadly, the evolution of party politics has been a corrupting process where 'the party' takes precedence. Membership of parties is so low they have virtually no mandate, IMHO. |
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Mar 23 2011, 08:28 PM
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You don't need as membership to support a party. Memberships are low because the parties are so closely aligned, and the majority of the country I suspect - despite what is reported - are content with their lot. Or at least are not too bothered who of the big three get in.
Maybe a little flippant, but this is what I mean by what is the point of a western democracy. |
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Mar 23 2011, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 08:28 PM) You don't need as membership to support a party. Memberships are low because the parties are so closely aligned, and the majority of the country I suspect - despite what is reported - are content with their lot. Or at least are not too bothered who of the big three get in. Maybe a little flippant, but this is what I mean by what is the point of a western democracy. Membership of the parties has always been barely above minimal, statistically. |
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Mar 23 2011, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 09:50 PM) Membership of the parties has always been barely above minimal, statistically. And therefore irrelevant as a measure of a mandate (which was your original point)? |
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Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 23 2011, 09:55 PM) And therefore irrelevant as a measure of a mandate (which was your original point)? I think we agree....... Do we? Should we? Could we? memories....... |
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Mar 23 2011, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM) I think we agree....... Do we? Should we? Could we? memories....... Dunno, what was the question? 
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Mar 31 2011, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 23 2011, 08:26 PM) I don't agree with that. Sadly, the evolution of party politics has been a corrupting process where 'the party' takes precedence. Membership of parties is so low they have virtually no mandate, IMHO. True. Have a look at Dave's Apolitical letter. http://apoliticalparty.blogspot.com/2011/0...eekly-news.html |
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