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post Jan 11 2011, 05:32 PM
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An eastern ring-road/bypass passing between Newbury and Thatcham would be of more use - diverting a lot of traffic out of the town.
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post Jan 11 2011, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 11 2011, 05:32 PM) *
An eastern ring-road/bypass passing between Newbury and Thatcham would be of more use - diverting a lot of traffic out of the town.

I'm not sure how an east circular would help Newbury Town centre. We kind of have one already.
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post Jan 11 2011, 06:15 PM
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I drive around Newbury quite a lot for work and very rarely find the traffic heavy, even at peak times.

I think the officer's comments on the use of Parkway were interesting - people prefer to sit in heavy parkway traffic rather than use the 339 which is almost always moving freely, an observation which I'd agree with. There appears to be something of a cultural thing here which I guess is historic which I don't understand as I've only lived 15 years.

I don't use the highstreet that much, but I would like it to be pedestrianised all the time for the reasons made in other posts. I think it would be a good idea to have the market square pedestrianised all the time too, though it is a dismal place most of the time, though that's partly due to the taxis.

The one bit of town where traffic is ridiculous is the Tesco roundabout and entrance to the trading estate, and I wonder if this is all part of the WBC plan to blight out-of-town shopping, because the whole thing appears to have been very badly planned if indeed it was planned at all.


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post Jan 11 2011, 06:22 PM
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I chance Park Way quite often. Sometimes it's clear and it saves crawling up the A339 at the start of the ruch hour jam. However get there too late and you can sit there for ages. It's a risk I'd say not a choice.
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post Jan 11 2011, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jan 11 2011, 06:15 PM) *
I drive around Newbury quite a lot for work and very rarely find the traffic heavy, even at peak times.

I think the officer's comments on the use of Parkway were interesting - people prefer to sit in heavy parkway traffic rather than use the 339 which is almost always moving freely, an observation which I'd agree with. There appears to be something of a cultural thing here which I guess is historic which I don't understand as I've only lived 15 years.
I agree. Most times when I walk over the bridge at 6ish I see traffic tailed back along Parkway however the Ring Road is almost always moving freely.

I wonder why people still use the bridge day after day?
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post Jan 11 2011, 07:27 PM
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I've just explained why I do, I am guessing you have selective reading on again User?
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post Jan 11 2011, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 11 2011, 06:48 PM) *
I agree. Most times when I walk over the bridge at 6ish I see traffic tailed back along Parkway however the Ring Road is almost always moving freely.

I wonder why people still use the bridge day after day?

Perhaps there are parts of the road system you cannot see on your journey that might explain it. Like big queues at the Robin Hood East bound for instance.
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post Jan 11 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 11 2011, 07:36 PM) *
Perhaps there are parts of the road system you cannot see on your journey that might explain it. Like big queues at the Robin Hood East bound for instance.
Perhaps, but then Western Avenue is almost always clear.

It's not hard to find a quick route of of town at that time of day.
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post Jan 11 2011, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 11 2011, 07:12 PM) *
When did I propose a route?

You didn't - that's why I'm asking.
You suggested we need a "West Circular" - you cannot have this without a route!! unsure.gif
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post Jan 11 2011, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 11 2011, 08:11 PM) *
You didn't - that's why I'm asking.
You suggested we need a "West Circular" - you cannot have this without a route!! unsure.gif

I said the absence of one would mean that we will be constantly tinkering with the road system. I realise, of course, that this would now be very hard to achieve. I understand that plans were considered in the 70s, but the council didn't go through with it.
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post Jan 12 2011, 06:48 AM
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Same old story with the bridge at Thatcham Station, an opportunity to have one built was dismissed at the time as unecessary, now we're told building one would be impossible.
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post Jan 12 2011, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 12 2011, 08:48 AM) *
Same old story with the bridge at Thatcham Station, an opportunity to have one built was dismissed at the time as unecessary, now we're told building one would be impossible.

Almost nothing, these days, is impossible in the civil engineering world.
Just look at the massive railway bridge they have just wheeled into place over the Caversham Road in Reading.
I think you'll find that the holding factor here is, as usual, money and who will need to cough it up in order to bring about this bridge.

Network Rail and the Council being the two biggest players.

Here I go again but if the by-pass had been built to the East this would not be a problem.
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post Jan 12 2011, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 11 2011, 05:38 PM) *
I'm not sure how an east circular would help Newbury Town centre. We kind of have one already.


The A339 can only be regarded as a central route these days as it will be the only in-town route (10-5) in a few month's time

An eastern route would enable traffic to and from Thatcham, Hambridge Road/Lane and the Racecourse to get north to the M4 or south to Basingstoke/Tot Hill without passing through the Newbury bottlenecks (A4/Hambridge Rd, A339 roundabouts).

A western route is already in place (the A34), though the addition of an interchange on the Enborne Road might do some good.

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post Jan 12 2011, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 12 2011, 06:40 PM) *
A western route is already in place (the A34), though the addition of an interchange on the Enborne Road might do some good.

Yes, good point, and something I have considered as well.
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post Jan 12 2011, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 12 2011, 06:40 PM) *
The A339 can only be regarded as a central route these days as it will be the only in-town route (10-5) in a few month's time

An eastern route would enable traffic to and from Thatcham, Hambridge Road/Lane and the Racecourse to get north to the M4 or south to Basingstoke/Tot Hill without passing through the Newbury bottlenecks (A4/Hambridge Rd, A339 roundabouts).

A western route is already in place (the A34), though the addition of an interchange on the Enborne Road might do some good.


I agree that the interchange at Enborne Road is a good idea. But can the road into town handle the increased traffic?
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post Jan 13 2011, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Jan 12 2011, 08:01 PM) *
I agree that the interchange at Enborne Road is a good idea. But can the road into town handle the increased traffic?

Residents wouldn't like it but most of the road is pretty good or could easily be made so - the junction with Newtown Road/Bartholomew Street would be the biggest problem. I wouldn't have thought it would make a huge difference though - not like an eastern ring road. But it would be a lot lot cheaper.
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post Jan 13 2011, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 13 2011, 06:06 PM) *
Residents wouldn't like it but most of the road is pretty good or could easily be made so - the junction with Newtown Road/Bartholomew Street would be the biggest problem. I wouldn't have thought it would make a huge difference though - not like an eastern ring road. But it would be a lot lot cheaper.


I guess the reason people wouldn't be too happy is that the amount of traffic would be hugely increased. Never rule it out, would be interesting to see how it could work.
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post Jan 14 2011, 01:45 PM
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Banning private vehicles from park Way is crazy because once again we are left with only the A339 for cars to cross town and this is normally packed during the rush hour and now will be overly busy all day.
All it will take is a minor bump and chaos will ensue.
WBC should either continue to allow private cars across the Park way bridge or provide an alternative. Locals should not have to use the by-pass to cross town and go miles out of their way through Wash Common and Speen.
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post Jan 14 2011, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE (Paul Thompson @ Jan 14 2011, 01:45 PM) *
Banning private vehicles from park Way is crazy because once again we are left with only the A339 for cars to cross town and this is normally packed during the rush hour and now will be overly busy all day.
All it will take is a minor bump and chaos will ensue.
WBC should either continue to allow private cars across the Park way bridge or provide an alternative. Locals should not have to use the by-pass to cross town and go miles out of their way through Wash Common and Speen.

During rush hour you can drive down Northbrook St.
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post Jan 14 2011, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Paul Thompson @ Jan 14 2011, 01:45 PM) *
Banning private vehicles from park Way is crazy because once again we are left with only the A339 for cars to cross town and this is normally packed during the rush hour and now will be overly busy all day.
All it will take is a minor bump and chaos will ensue.
WBC should either continue to allow private cars across the Park way bridge or provide an alternative. Locals should not have to use the by-pass to cross town and go miles out of their way through Wash Common and Speen.


The A339 is not the By-Pass........ Or have I misunderstood?

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