Hermitage Garrison Now in Covid19 Fight, 77th Brigade Options

[gel]

The Cyber Warriors in Hermitage joining the fight against mis information.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1277906/c...n-army-covid-19

[Mr Brown]

The Cyber Warriors in Hermitage joining the fight against mis information.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1277906/c...n-army-covid-19

One of the key points will be to ensure that the data definition and source are absolutely reliable, day on day. This would then stop the distortionists. Statistics are pointless unless you can accurately report like against like. As I write, we are being told we have the highest death toll in Europe, may be the case BUT what are we and they counting? The greater the difference in definition / source the less value even for trend analysis.

[James_Trinder]

One of the key points will be to ensure that the data definition and source are absolutely reliable, day on day. This would then stop the distortionists. Statistics are pointless unless you can accurately report like against like. As I write, we are being told we have the highest death toll in Europe, may be the case BUT what are we and they counting? The greater the difference in definition / source the less value even for trend analysis.

Speaking as a qualified statistician and member of the Royal Statistical Society I couldn't agree with you more. There is no point comparing apples with pears or indeed any other fruit. Per capita measures are a good place to start but there are other factors to take into account as well. The John Hopkins University dashboards are a relatively unbiased source in terms of presenting the currently available global Covid data.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Speaking as a qualified statistician and member of the Royal Statistical Society I couldn't agree with you more. There is no point comparing apples with pears or indeed any other fruit. Per capita measures are a good place to start but there are other factors to take into account as well. The John Hopkins University dashboards are a relatively unbiased source in terms of presenting the currently available global Covid data.

Indeed. The really sad thing is if appears that some people actually want more and more people to die in order to further a political agenda. Sure the government have been far from perfect and the time for recriminations will come. Now is not it though.

[SirWilliam]

Indeed. The really sad thing is if appears that some people actually want more and more people to die in order to further a political agenda. Sure the government have been far from perfect and the time for recriminations will come. Now is not it though.

Exactly. Politicians are not scientists yet alone a virologist so they are always going to be playing catch up. Just seen a piece on the news that some hairdressers are still operating behind "closed" doors, but I have yet to hear that the police are investigating or anyone from the the political arena calling for tougher measures. The main news remains that some random number on testing has not been met, yet no one points to the elephant in the room that the test can be negative and they think they are safe yet they can become infected on the way home and pass it on. Also how many are asking for a test when they are not in that demographic that requires one?
Testing may well have it's place but social distancing is the real answer and if everyone had adhered to it we would be back at work now with countless lives saved.

[Mr Brown]

Exactly. Politicians are not scientists yet alone a virologist so they are always going to be playing catch up. Just seen a piece on the news that some hairdressers are still operating behind "closed" doors, but I have yet to hear that the police are investigating or anyone from the the political arena calling for tougher measures. The main news remains that some random number on testing has not been met, yet no one points to the elephant in the room that the test can be negative and they think they are safe yet they can become infected on the way home and pass it on. Also how many are asking for a test when they are not in that demographic that requires one?
Testing may well have it's place but social distancing is the real answer and if everyone had adhered to it we would be back at work now with countless lives saved.

Worrying isn't it. Irresponsibility seems to be a national trait, now even in the Twittering classes. We've had an expert scientist rightly having to resign his post because he was caught not keeping his own advice personally. Then, today the national public service broadcaster uncovers the hairdressing scam. Of course, they will have passed on the evidence to the Police and let us know what happens next won't they? And so to testing. I seem to remember much weeping and wailing about our lack of testing and that the German were doing sooo much better. No matter what the Health Secretary said, it didn't shut the noises off, rather increased it. So, what to do? As any business would do, set an ambitious target and go for it. Whilst the plan developed, yet more twittering, 'they want do it', but of course, they did! No armchair 'o' level pundit will admit to being wrong, so they must have fiddled the figures mustn't they? I won't even comment as to the difference between number of people given tests v number of transactions, but surely a moment's thought will tell you 'they' can't really easily control the numbers coming forward but certainly can manage the number they can offer. Government in times of national crisis is hard enough, but without any competent opposition and without responsible reporting, almost impossible. Seems to me that it's now time to significantly enhance the Emergency Powers Act.