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post Jun 3 2018, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 09:34 PM) *
I was making the point that in all religions, races, parties, professions there exist deviants. What we should not do is draw conclusions about everyone in that group based upon the actions of a few. To do so lacks intelligence.



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post Jun 3 2018, 09:55 PM
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I think you missed one or two.


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post Jun 3 2018, 10:00 PM
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To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.


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post Jun 3 2018, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 3 2018, 05:59 AM) *
Well I can only assume that by supporting him that you do not believe in our western values of justice and fair trials as it appears that’s the reason for the restrictions. If so, perhaps you belong in an extreme Muslim country? Or you think there’s a conspiracy? I’ll get you a tin foil hat. Like all extremists you can’t see the truth through the rhetoric.

Oh and why would you contribute money to a criminal which is what he is? Reputable politicians, reporters etc. don’t have a criminal past. Interestingly extremists of all persuasions often do but it doesn’t stop the under educated following.


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post Jun 4 2018, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 3 2018, 11:00 PM) *
To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.


As Thomas Jefferson said; question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.



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post Jun 4 2018, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 3 2018, 11:00 PM) *
To keep coming up with excuses to protect an ideology that is in all ways bad for humanity is, to me unacceptable. Why are the leftie libtards still voicing for child rapists. YES, you are complicit. I would not want your child to go through what they do but if it did, your political views would sway within minutes. You shoud be so ashamed of yourselves. Wake up and sod off.


You must be "uneducated" to hold such views.😂 In newres world that is. I bet you are white and right wing. All things bad.
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post Jun 4 2018, 11:02 PM
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here's another 'soldja' for newres and his ilk to defend.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/31/uk/husna...intl/index.html
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post Jun 5 2018, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 5 2018, 12:02 AM) *
here's another 'soldja' for newres and his ilk to defend.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/31/uk/husna...intl/index.html


Yet more scum I have to share my air supply with.

And for the "Educated", a very well presented view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0sVEKqAkhY&app=desktop



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post Jun 5 2018, 04:20 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2018, 08:38 PM) *
You must be "uneducated" to hold such views.😂 In newres world that is. I bet you are white and right wing. All things bad.

Oh be serious. Look at his rant above. The guy’s an unhinged extremist. He calls a religion that’s 1,300 years old “bad for humanity”.

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post Jun 5 2018, 05:11 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 5 2018, 05:20 AM) *
Oh be serious. Look at his rant above. The guy’s an unhinged extremist. He calls a religion that’s 1,300 years old “bad for humanity”.

Sorry but I agree with that statement. I'd change it thiugh to ALL religions are bad for humanity. Anyone who believes in Sky fairies is in my mind lumped in with "flat earthers". Basically you beleive in something that is not logical.
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post Jun 5 2018, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 5 2018, 06:11 AM) *
Sorry but I agree with that statement. I'd change it thiugh to ALL religions are bad for humanity. Anyone who believes in Sky fairies is in my mind lumped in with "flat earthers". Basically you beleive in something that is not logical.

I initially went to agree, but then thought science has brought about the industrial revolution which has brought about a population explosion and pollution, so I am now unsure.

Belief is not an issue for me until it brings about wanton suffering.
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post Jun 5 2018, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 5 2018, 06:11 AM) *
Sorry but I agree with that statement. I'd change it thiugh to ALL religions are bad for humanity. Anyone who believes in Sky fairies is in my mind lumped in with "flat earthers". Basically you beleive in something that is not logical.


Odd that some most if the worst excesses of last centuary were inflicted by regimes holding exactly that view. Perhaps the reports coming out of Nortn Korea are wrong. As to the matter in question here; I don't think anyone would disagree the sick abuse Robinson is apparently complaining about should have been stamped out far earlier and that the perpetrators were Muslim. Nonetheless, exactly the same could have been applied to other and exactly similar outrages. Perhaps we missed the reports of Tommy Robinson's fight to get Liberal Democracy banned or the BBC shut down?


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post Jun 5 2018, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 5 2018, 05:20 AM) *
Oh be serious. Look at his rant above. The guy’s an unhinged extremist. He calls a religion that’s 1,300 years old “bad for humanity”.


Unhinged extremist?



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post Jun 5 2018, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 5 2018, 05:20 AM) *
Oh be serious. Look at his rant above. The guy’s an unhinged extremist. He calls a religion that’s 1,300 years old “bad for humanity”.



Age has not helped. 1300 years of strife.


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post Jun 5 2018, 06:54 PM
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Newres is busy trying to come back with an intelligent reply. Warning! may take some time!
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post Jun 5 2018, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 5 2018, 07:54 PM) *
Newres is busy trying to come back with an intelligent reply. Warning! may take some time!


You sound like an "unhinged extremist" JSC!😂
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post Jun 5 2018, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 5 2018, 07:35 AM) *
I initially went to agree, but then thought science has brought about the industrial revolution which has brought about a population explosion and pollution, so I am now unsure.

Belief is not an issue for me until it brings about wanton suffering.



Without the wanton suffering that is going on and has been for 1300 years, there would be no Tommy Robinson.


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post Jun 6 2018, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 5 2018, 08:52 PM) *
Without the wanton suffering that is going on and has been for 1300 years, there would be no Tommy Robinson.


But his past record suggests otherwise; he likes a ruck, any ruck. It's this that's counter productive to any values based organisation lent his support.


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post Jun 6 2018, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 6 2018, 07:54 AM) *
But his past record suggests otherwise; he likes a ruck, any ruck. It's this that's counter productive to any values based organisation lent his support.



Well perhaps a few more need to start listening to the concerns of a huge proportion of the population then.

It could also be said, it is someone who "Likes a ruck" as you say, that has the balls to stand up and say it how it is.
Having a "past" does not make what you say now any less true.


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post Jun 6 2018, 02:28 PM
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I havent read a lot of posts on here but at the point Tommy Robinson was arrested, the defendants hadn't been charged. Therefore they are not rapists, groomers or anything else, they are citizens just like the rest of us. That is the very crux of the issue really, because that seperates Robinson from other journalists and sums up why he isn't just doing the same as the others.
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