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Oct 4 2016, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 4 2016, 08:03 PM) I am currently thinking the quickest way would be to drive up the Andover Road to the Wash Water bypass interchange, then along the bypass to the A4 interchange. Any better suggestions? That's often the quickest route anyway despite it being several miles further.
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Oct 5 2016, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 5 2016, 06:06 AM) I wonder if this is now going to be a permanent feature when the scheme is complete? Another obstacle on the only north - south route through the town can't improve things can it? I am finding it hard to appreciate what may be the gain achieved from the pain in this scheme. That is in addition to the expense incurred and the environmental impact of more stopping, standing still and starting of vehicles. It is one common theme with some schemes: trying to understand the benefits. The line would be to regenerate an unused area of the town. Although I have no proof it wouldn't surprise me if there was a lot of nodding and winking this through; meanwhile, Vickie Park is being eroded.
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Oct 5 2016, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 5 2016, 07:24 AM) It is one common theme with some schemes: trying to understand the benefits. The line would be to regenerate an unused area of the town. Although I have no proof it wouldn't surprise me if there was a lot of nodding and winking this through; meanwhile, Vickie Park is being eroded. To understand the benefits, first you need to decide whose shoes you are wearing!
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Oct 9 2016, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Oct 8 2016, 04:14 PM) Traffic is a joke in newbury lately.
Major road works on the only route north south as well as boundry road still being shut. Gg council You know there's another North / South route, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbury_bypass
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Oct 9 2016, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 9 2016, 11:00 AM) You know there's another North / South route, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbury_bypassHardly relevant if you actually live in Newbury. I think the other day was possibly the second time I have used the bypass since it opened, as I had to get somewhere on time and couldn't risk being stuck in traffic. I think the first time was soon after it opened just to see what it was like.
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Oct 9 2016, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 9 2016, 02:16 PM) Hardly relevant if you actually live in Newbury. I think the other day was possibly the second time I have used the bypass since it opened, as I had to get somewhere on time and couldn't risk being stuck in traffic.
I think the first time was soon after it opened just to see what it was like. You've negated your own argument there by saying it's not relevant to you, but you used it the other day as you thought it was a more reliable route. I live in Newbury and I also sometimes use the by-pass if I need to get to the other side of town.
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Oct 9 2016, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 9 2016, 02:24 PM) You've negated your own argument there by saying it's not relevant to you, but you used it the other day as you thought it was a more reliable route.
I live in Newbury and I also sometimes use the by-pass if I need to get to the other side of town. You've negated yours. It's supposed to be a by-pass.
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Oct 9 2016, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 9 2016, 03:36 PM) You've negated yours. It's supposed to be a by-pass. You are quite right newres. However, some have clearly already brought into the mindset they want us to have...it won't be long before we see the new homes sprout either side of this 'alternative' road!
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Oct 9 2016, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 9 2016, 02:24 PM) You've negated your own argument there by saying it's not relevant to you, but you used it the other day as you thought it was a more reliable route.
I live in Newbury and I also sometimes use the by-pass if I need to get to the other side of town. Nothing like doing a 4 mile detour when you only want to do a few hundred yards journey is there?
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Oct 9 2016, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 9 2016, 03:36 PM) You've negated yours. It's supposed to be a by-pass. Not sure how his point is negated as he is suggesting using the A34 to bypass the town centre and its traffic problems.
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Oct 9 2016, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Oct 9 2016, 04:30 PM) Nothing like doing a 4 mile detour when you only want to do a few hundred yards journey is there? Exactly. That's why it's not relevant to me. One-time use through force majeure* doesn't make it any more relevant. (In fact, the ring road had reopened to two-lane traffic that morning, but I wasn't to know that - if I had, I would of course not have used the bypass then, either.) * "an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, or an event described by the legal term act of God (hurricane, flood, earthquake, volcanic eruption, etc.)" - or in this case incompetent planning by the local council.
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Oct 9 2016, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 9 2016, 04:52 PM) Not sure how his point is negated as he is suggesting using the A34 to bypass the town centre and its traffic problems. I thought the A339 was to bypass the town centre. In truth though, because at peak times the congestion on the inadequate access roads to the A339 is so heavy, it is often better to use the by-pass. It has to be a 5 mile diversion at least.
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Oct 9 2016, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 9 2016, 03:36 PM) You've negated yours. It's supposed to be a by-pass. Yes, and we've both used it to by-pass the middle of Newbury recently. I'm not sure how this negates my point.
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