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post Jan 1 2012, 09:28 PM
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Perhaps our MP's are finally going in the right direction.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...r.html#comments


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JeffG
post Jan 4 2012, 11:42 AM
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Having read some on line articles about this, some (most? all?) Muslims are perfectly happy with animals being stunned before being slaughtered. So it would seem to be a non-problem that could be resolved by legislation.

Another article (this was by some vegetarian organisation, so maybe not unbiased) said that major supermarkets when asked said they either did not supply Halal meat at all, or the animal was stunned before slaughter. Link
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post Jan 4 2012, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 4 2012, 11:42 AM) *
Having read some on line articles about this, some (most? all?) Muslims are perfectly happy with animals being stunned before being slaughtered. So it would seem to be a non-problem that could be resolved by legislation.

Another article (this was by some vegetarian organisation, so maybe not unbiased) said that major supermarkets when asked said they either did not supply Halal meat at all, or the animal was stunned before slaughter. Link


This is generally my understanding from what I have read. Most Muslims agree that the animal should be stunned first, but some hardliners disagree - which could lead to an abhorrent and cruel situation which should be stamped out with the enforcement of legislation.

I was under the impression that Halal meat was in the shops and restaurants far more than we realise, and this does not particuarly bother me as long as the animal is slaughtered in the most humane way possible.. but perhaps it would be nice to be able to make an informed choice.
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post Jan 5 2012, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Jan 4 2012, 07:27 PM) *
perhaps it would be nice to be able to make an informed choice.

Presumably, if you buy a kebab it's going to be Halal meat, so there's one easy choice to make.
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post Jan 5 2012, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 5 2012, 11:26 AM) *
Presumably, if you buy a kebab it's going to be Halal meat, so there's one easy choice to make.

Should one make a choice on a presumption? Perhaps it would be better to become better informed first?
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