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Newbury Today Forum _ Newbury News _ BNP and UKIP flyers. re Upcoming Euro Elections.
Posted by: Bill1 May 20 2009, 03:40 PM
I have received glossy leaflets through my letterbox from both of the above this week, but nothing from the 3 main parties.
Surely they are not being complacent in the current political climate are they?
Posted by: Phil Taylor May 20 2009, 05:00 PM
Surely they are not being complacent in the current political climate are they?
Well the reason for that is that the 3 main parties are not interested in your view on the EU. They have drank the 'Koolaid' and bought into the program. They want the federalisation of europe to go ahead and to campaign would raise too much awareness of what is at risk. If people don't vote then they get what they want.
If we are concerned at the MP's expenses scandal then have a look at what is happening in the EU Commission. Corruption and fraud are rife. Marta Andreasen, as profiled in todays Newbury Today, tried to clean up their act and was sacked. I bought her book on Monday and have almost finished it. I found it truly frightening that we are walking into a situation where Westminster is reduced to nothing more than a ceremonial and procedural instrument, a glorified parish council, where ALL of our laws will be made in the EU by unelected, corrupt bureaucrats and we will never have the ability to vote them out. http://forum.newburytoday.co.uk/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif
Posted by: GMR May 20 2009, 05:59 PM
Surely they are not being complacent in the current political climate are they?
Maybe they realise with all the bad publicity they've had that the game is up.
Posted by: Pete Baggett May 20 2009, 08:09 PM
Any communication from either of those "parties" goes directly into the shredder.
Posted by: Bill1 May 21 2009, 08:39 AM
Well I don't have a shredder Pete, but will my recycling box do.
Thought that went without saying, especially BNP.
Posted by: JeffG May 21 2009, 09:09 AM
Thought that went without saying, especially BNP.
My vote goes to the recycling box. They won't take shredded paper for recycling, so you might as well help these parties contribute to society in some way.
Posted by: Hugh Saskin May 21 2009, 09:48 AM
Just seen The Green Party in a very handsome ex London Transport Routemaster parked up in the market. Runs on bio-fuel and certainly an eye catching 'flyer'. Mind you, not sure bio-fuel is as quite as green as it's made out to be...
Posted by: Iommi May 21 2009, 09:55 AM
I'll have to go UKIP on this. The other parties are the ones that have got us here and while it isn't all bad in Europe, it certainly isn't a good example to me of democracy.
Posted by: localissues May 21 2009, 11:48 AM
[quote name='Iommi' date='May 21 2009, 10:55 AM' post='274']
I'll have to go UKIP on this. The other parties are the ones that have got us here and while it isn't all bad in Europe, it certainly isn't a good example to me of democracy.
a.b.rolfe may 21 12.50
It was the tories and labour who got us into the E.U and did,nt think we were intellegent enought to be able to have a opinion, hence no vote on the referendum, or am I being a tad cynical to think they may have seen another gravy train coming in to the station they at some time in the future could hop on , just like the Kinnocks. yes its got to be U.K.I.P to at least show our contempt for that.
Posted by: Bobfm May 21 2009, 12:08 PM
You will be in good company, millions will vote for UKIP. The party is the only one who really believes in a free Britain and is an inclusive party. I received my Tory leaflet today and frankly it's more of the usual drivel about how they have helped Britain through the EU. They simply ignore the fact that 55% of Britain's want out of the EU. They also just compare themselves with the other two main parties and no mention of any others. A serious error of judgement by a Blair wannabee leader.
Posted by: GMR May 21 2009, 07:08 PM
I think it is very bad in Europe, however, I do agree with you about UKip.
Posted by: Wendy Fatladysings May 21 2009, 07:37 PM
Anyone...and I mean anyone, thinking of voting UKIP shoulld read this...
http://ukipwatch.org/What%20became%20of%20the%20UKIP%20twelve.pdf
A catalogue of corruption, fraud, jail terms, incompetence, racism and much more....
Wendy.
Posted by: Phil Taylor May 22 2009, 03:09 PM
Good God. They're as bad as Labour and Tory MP's!! I'll still be voting UKIP though. UKIP watch are missing the point. There is NO other party, apart from the odious BNP, working in Britains favor. Only UKIP will have a chance to force a referendum and they still remain the only party who speak against the EU.
http://ukipwatch.org/What%20became%20of%20the%20UKIP%20twelve.pdf
A catalogue of corruption, fraud, jail terms, incompetence, racism and much more....
Wendy.
Posted by: GMR May 22 2009, 08:17 PM
http://ukipwatch.org/What%20became%20of%20the%20UKIP%20twelve.pdf
A catalogue of corruption, fraud, jail terms, incompetence, racism and much more....
Wendy.
Just like reading about all the other parties at Westminster.... what is new?
Posted by: JeffG May 23 2009, 08:48 AM
http://ukipwatch.org/What%20became%20of%20the%20UKIP%20twelve.pdf
A catalogue of corruption, fraud, jail terms, incompetence, racism and much more....
Wendy.
Well, I don't know how others got this link to work. I got:
Remote Host: [xx.xx.xx.xx (my IP address)]
You do not have permission to access http://ukipwatch.org/What%20became%20of%20the%20UKIP%20twelve.pdf
Data files must be stored on the same site they are linked from.
Edit: Got the same thing trying with Internet Explorer. But pasting the link straight into Firefox's address bar worked. Weird.
Posted by: Andy May 24 2009, 01:14 AM
Edit: Got the same thing trying with Internet Explorer. But pasting the link straight into Firefox's address bar worked. Weird.
For internet explorer try replacing each "%20" with a space ie "http://ukipwatch.org/What became of the UKIP twelve.pdf"
Posted by: GMR May 25 2009, 09:57 AM
Mine did the same and showing my IP address. Something strange going on.
Posted by: JeffG May 25 2009, 10:50 AM
If you're an expert on how HTTP requests work, then I defer to you. But it was always my understanding that spaces or other special characters are converted to their hex equivalent when the request is sent to the server.
Clicking on your link doesn't work for me (notice what has happened to your URL - I put in an extra space so you can see it), either in Firefox or Internet Explorer, but pasting directly into the address bar does.
This is odd, because it seems to work for other people
Posted by: Andy May 25 2009, 11:19 PM
Clicking on your link doesn't work for me (notice what has happened to your URL - I put in an extra space so you can see it), either in Firefox or Internet Explorer, but pasting directly into the address bar does.
This is odd, because it seems to work for other people
Your right my link didn't work, but does when cutting and pasting directly to IE address!!!! Most bizarre, but I'm not going to fret over it any more
Posted by: GMR May 26 2009, 05:48 PM
After i went on the site I started getting a load of emails with my ISP number on it. Saying that I've been marked for entering a restricted area.
Posted by: Roost May 28 2009, 07:35 PM
On a completely different note, who else noticed that the 'workmen' on the BNP leaflet had extremely clean clothing, particularly the reflective jackets? Don't think I've ever seen builders that clean before! Is this the shape of things to come.......!
Posted by: JeffG May 29 2009, 12:41 PM
Going right back to the original post, my experience has been completely the opposite. I've had communications from the Lib Dems and the Conservatives, but nothing from UKIP or the BNP. Which is just as well!
Posted by: GMR May 30 2009, 01:56 PM
I've had nothing from the major parties, but I have had some stuff through the post from UKip.
Posted by: Bill1 May 30 2009, 06:28 PM
I have finally recieved stuff from Lib Dems and Tories.
Posted by: GMR Jun 1 2009, 03:44 PM
I've received nothing so far.
Posted by: JeffG Jun 2 2009, 08:52 AM
Are you on the electoral roll? Did you receive a polling card? Just a thought.
Posted by: GMR Jun 2 2009, 09:41 AM
I should be..... I hope I am. I have been elected to go to the count on Sunday. It will daft if I am not entitled to vote. I've always voted.
Posted by: JeffG Jun 2 2009, 10:07 PM
Well, you either received a polling card or you didn't. "Hope" doesn't come into it
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 3 2009, 10:44 AM
GMR
What count on Sunday?
Posted by: JeffG Jun 3 2009, 06:21 PM
What count on Sunday?
Bill1, the count is not until Sunday because other countries vote on different days (many have their elections on Sundays).
Posted by: GMR Jun 3 2009, 07:29 PM
What count on Sunday?
It is for the European Parliamentary elections. It will be held West Berkshire Council offices, Market street, Newbury. it is between 6 pm and 9 pm on Sunday. Even though the election is on the 4th June (tomorrow or today, depending when you read this) because it is European all European countries have to hold the count on the same day, same time.
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 4 2009, 08:55 AM
I see thanks GMR.
Obviously I was wondering because usually election counts are done on the night, but I can understand why an EU wide one would take longer.
Posted by: GMR Jun 4 2009, 11:26 AM
Obviously I was wondering because usually election counts are done on the night, but I can understand why an EU wide one would take longer.
I've just done the honourable thing and voted. Personally I think Labour will suffer and maybe the smaller parties will do well. I am not sure what will happen to the conservatives or liberals.... it will be interesting to see.
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 4 2009, 01:41 PM
Yeah I've just voted too. Polling station was very queit, maybe more will vote before or after work.
Posted by: GMR Jun 4 2009, 03:42 PM
They reckon that not many people will turn out to vote.... but we will see.
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 4 2009, 04:27 PM
People who dont vote have no right to complain about the outcome of elections I feel.
I do understand that some people who usually do won't this time as a protest but surely that risks letting certain "minority" (I think you know who I'm referring to) have more exposure at least and power at worst.
Posted by: GMR Jun 5 2009, 12:31 PM
I do understand that some people who usually do won't this time as a protest but surely that risks letting certain "minority" (I think you know who I'm referring to) have more exposure at least and power at worst.
Sadly the BNP will get a lot of protest votes.
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 5 2009, 01:50 PM
I know.
One local female was even "bragging" that she did on Facebook last night, which is wrong on so many levels
Posted by: GMR Jun 5 2009, 03:27 PM
One local female was even "bragging" that she did on Facebook last night, which is wrong on so many levels
I've been to Reading today and the amount of people who have said that they've voted for the BNP. I've even spoken to people in Newbury who have voted for the BNP. To be honest I don't think most of them really understand what the BNP stand for.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 5 2009, 04:09 PM
Telling people that they 'can't' vote for a party (as a lot of politicians have) is undemocratic. I think that is one of the reasons they will get so many votes.
Posted by: JeffG Jun 5 2009, 06:28 PM
Perhaps there should be some sort of IQ test that people have to pass before being allowed to vote.
It's all been going downhill since they allowed people who didn't own country estates to vote...
[The second bit was a joke for those with a low humour quotient 
]
Posted by: GMR Jun 6 2009, 01:31 PM
It's all been going downhill since they allowed people who didn't own country estates to vote...
[The second bit was a joke for those with a low humour quotient
]If you started an IQ test to see who is competent to vote you'll cut down the people who can vote to a quarter of the population (even that could be an over estimation
)
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 6 2009, 07:32 PM
The first question should be "How do you spell IQ"? 
Posted by: Hugh Saskin Jun 7 2009, 08:52 AM
I do understand that some people who usually do won't this time as a protest but surely that risks letting certain "minority" (I think you know who I'm referring to) have more exposure at least and power at worst.
I might be way out on this, but isn't voting compulsory in Oz? If that were the case here, the majority would always have to be heard. You all know the saying 'For evil to succeed, it only requires....'
Posted by: GMR Jun 8 2009, 06:50 PM
How do you spell it?
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 9 2009, 10:43 AM
IT!
Posted by: Andy Jun 9 2009, 12:30 PM
eyetea
Posted by: Bill1 Jun 9 2009, 02:28 PM
eyetea Phone Home......
Posted by: GMR Jun 9 2009, 05:50 PM
That's the one
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