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Oct 27 2010, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (Ziggy @ Oct 27 2010, 08:33 AM) http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14945Now I have no particular qualifications or expertise in town planning, but is this not rather shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? Ever since I have lived in the area, new housing and retail developments have been given the go-ahead with seemingly no strategic thinking whatsoever about roads or other infrastructure. Wouldn't it be advisable for the Councils to solve the traffic problems in Newbury before building 2k5 new houses in and around the town or is that being too simplistic?
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Oct 27 2010, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 09:05 AM) Suggestions as to possible routes please. IMHO it would be as waste of time. If we had a ring road we could then have a 'proper' pedestrianise shopping centre. QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 09:05 AM) The councillor is suggesting that we don't want through traffic. Drivers will always opt for the shortest route, regardless of the traffic flow so a ring road would be under used. It is what Reading, Swindon and Basingstoke did and do. Not that I am a great admirer of them.
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Oct 27 2010, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 10:21 AM) If we had a ring road we could then have a 'proper' pedestrianise shopping centre.
It is what Reading, Swindon and Basingstoke did and do. Not that I am a great admirer of them. None of the above really have a 'proper' ring road - they have disjointed bits of dual carriageway, usually which end in a bottle neck. Swindon has only just had two of their bottle necks removed ( on the A419/7 ) but all that has done is make the situation at Birdlip worse. Most of the traffic in Newbury is folk either driving into town to go to work, or mums driving their kids to school. You only have to look at the situation in the Wharf & over the canal bridge every day to realise that drivers are their own worse enemy. They deserve to sit in traffic
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Oct 27 2010, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 10:27 AM) Most of the traffic in Newbury is folk either driving into town to go to work, or mums driving their kids to school. Why then is Sunday lunch time often so bad on the A339? QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 10:27 AM) You only have to look at the situation in the Wharf & over the canal bridge every day to realise that drivers are their own worse enemy. They deserve to sit in traffic That is a bit unfair; no-body looks for a traffic jam and one can develop in a matter of minutes in Newbury. One of the problems is a lack of 'north circular' on the west said of town. If we had more canal crossings, that might improve things. I still maintain that the pedestrianisation project is partly let down by an inappropriate road system in the town.
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Oct 27 2010, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 12:27 PM) Why then is Sunday lunch time often so bad on the A339?
That is a bit unfair; no-body looks for a traffic jam and one can develop in a matter of minutes in Newbury.
One of the problems is a lack of 'north circular' on the west said of town. If we had more canal crossings, that might improve things. Unfair? I bet it is the same drivers each day. The A339 is a longer, but faster alternative, but people still drive down park way. A339 on Sundays? Which bit?
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Oct 27 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 12:31 PM) Unfair? I bet it is the same drivers each day. The A339 is a longer, but faster alternative, but people still drive down park way. Although it is besides the point; how do you know? QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 12:31 PM) A339 on Sundays? Which bit? Down the link and on to the Police Station, etc...
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Oct 27 2010, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 01:06 PM) Although it is besides the point; how do you know?
Down the link and on to the Police Station, etc... Well Watson, using parkway to get across town isn't a route a person who does not know the town would take. Therefore one must assume those waiting on the one-way bridge etc know the town well, which means they must use the route often to be familiar with it. The traffic on the A339 is hardly bad enough to warrant building a by pass - which I am sure would only be used by 'out of towners' I wonder, how many local people wanting to get from Wash Common to Shaw would ever think of using the A34?
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Oct 27 2010, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM) How many local people wanting to get from Wash Common to Shaw would ever think of using the A34? My friend lives in Woolton Hill and when he used to work at West Berkshire Hospital he did exactly that.
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Oct 27 2010, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Oct 27 2010, 01:20 PM) My friend lives in Woolton Hill and when he used to work at West Berkshire Hospital he did exactly that. I'd expect him to & most other to do the same. Woolton Hill is not in Newbury. I'm on about people driving out of the town - ie say from near Park House School & then on to the A34 when going to Waitrose.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 01:25 PM) I'd expect him to & most other to do the same. Woolton Hill is not in Newbury. I'm on about people driving out of the town - ie say from near Park House School & then on to the A34 when going to Waitrose. Well, that's what we do. Mind you, you do sometimes take your life in your hands joining the A34 - the slip roads are far too short for safety.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 01:25 PM) I'd expect him to & most other to do the same. Woolton Hill is not in Newbury. I'm on about people driving out of the town - ie say from near Park House School & then on to the A34 when going to Waitrose. Well, that's what we do. Mind you, you do sometimes take your life in your hands joining the A34 - the slip roads are far too short for safety.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM) Well Watson, using parkway to get across town isn't a route a person who does not know the town would take. Therefore one must assume those waiting on the one-way bridge etc know the town well, which means they must use the route often to be familiar with it. OK, so it is an assumption then. QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM) The traffic on the A339 is hardly bad enough to warrant building a by pass - which I am sure would only be used by 'out of towners' I wonder, how many local people wanting to get from Wash Common to Shaw would ever think of using the A34? I'm not sure a by-pass was what was proposed. My view is about making navigating around town better so as to improve exit/access and so that we may have a 'proper' pedestrian shopping centre. It is all rather pointless anyway, as it ain't going to happen any time soon. If anything, perhaps Thatcham deserve a bridge for the railway crossing more than anything.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 02:32 PM) OK, so it is an assumption then.
I'm not sure a by-pass was what was proposed. My view is about making navigating around town better so as to improve exit/access and so that we may have a 'proper' pedestrian shopping centre.
It is all rather pointless anyway, as it ain't going to happen any time soon. If anything, perhaps Thatcham deserve a bridge for the railway crossing more than anything. Unless a survey is conducted the nature of the journey origination of anyone at the wharf is assumption.... A ring road in town - pushed through existing development?
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Oct 27 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 02:38 PM) Huh? If it isn't a green field by-pass, ( or on the W side of town utilising the A34 ), ie a distance from the town centre it will have to be built over existing development won't it. ( I agree that it is all hypothetical as it will never be considered ). Not like the A339 Newbury - Basingstoke dual carrigeway plan that was considered at great cost.
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