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Andy Capp
post Nov 21 2017, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 21 2017, 08:56 PM) *
Could've, should've, would've! Not great as a defense if you'd knocked a child down is it.

It wasn't a defence, but at least while I am not looking at the speedo, I'm paying attention to my surroundings.
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 08:59 PM) *
It wasn't a defence, but at least while I am not looking at the speedo, I'm paying attention to my surroundings.

Which presumably were going past at a fair lick? Ooh! Good defense! "Sorry M'lud, didn't know how fast I was going like, too busy looking at te clouds an such". Classic!
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Andy Capp
post Nov 21 2017, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 21 2017, 09:06 PM) *
Which presumably were going past at a fair lick? Ooh! Good defense! "Sorry M'lud, didn't know how fast I was going like, too busy looking at te clouds an such". Classic!

It's not a defence, just being honest, but rest assured it was not in close proximity of any pedestrians and I was driving at a safe distance from the car in front of me.
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 09:11 PM) *
It's not a defence, just being honest, but rest assured it was not in close proximity of any pedestrians and I was driving at a safe distance from the car in front of me.

LOL, just yanking your chain.
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 21 2017, 09:12 PM) *
LOL, just yanking your chain.

I know wink.gif

I do the same too! tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 09:15 PM) *
I know wink.gif

I do the same too! tongue.gif

Yeah, but I'm better at it.
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Andy Capp
post Nov 21 2017, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 21 2017, 09:28 PM) *
Yeah, but I'm better at it.

Agreed; no-one can pull my wire quite like you!
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:47 PM
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The point I make is that what is acceptable 30 years ago is not acceptable now. This might well be the same as speeding. If a child had run out in the road from a field in the middle of nowhere would you have stopped in time? Would you have been prosecuted for manslaughter? Just playing devils advocate... To make light of a speeding class that you "volunteered" to go to in order to avoid paying a fine in some eyes may seem insensitive.
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post Nov 21 2017, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 21 2017, 09:47 PM) *
The point I make is that what is acceptable 30 years ago is not acceptable now. This might well be the same as speeding. If a child had run out in the road from a field in the middle of nowhere would you have stopped in time? Would you have been prosecuted for manslaughter? Just playing devils advocate... To make light of a speeding class that you "volunteered" to go to in order to avoid paying a fine in some eyes may seem insensitive.

I didnt make light of my penalty, but it cost a £100.00 so no fine is avoided; however, we were told fewer people are caught speeding after attending a speed awareness than those who take the points.

It seems you and others are replying to arguments I have not made.
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post Nov 22 2017, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 21 2017, 02:50 PM) *
Back in the day it was "acceptable" to go down the local have five pints and drive home. You were "unlucky" if you got caught. Now you are seen as a danger to all and quite rightly so. Perhaps in a few years when driverless cars ensure people stay under the speed limit your actions will be deemed senseless and moronic. Just saying...


Odds are that driverless cars will eventually go faster - because they are better driven they will be safer at high speeds.

But you don't need driverless cars to speed limit cars - all you need is a GPS, a link to the engine management computer thingy and a bit of software - absolute doddle costing very little to implement. They should have been fitting them in cars for ten years - many would use them even if there was an off switch. After a few years it would be socially unacceptable to use the off switch.
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post Nov 22 2017, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 22 2017, 01:21 AM) *
Odds are that driverless cars will eventually go faster - because they are better driven they will be safer at high speeds.

But you don't need driverless cars to speed limit cars - all you need is a GPS, a link to the engine management computer thingy and a bit of software - absolute doddle costing very little to implement. They should have been fitting them in cars for ten years - many would use them even if there was an off switch. After a few years it would be socially unacceptable to use the off switch.

If a TomTom represents a good example, then plenty of the road network is missmapped, just in the limited area I drive there are a number of places tagged with the wrong speed limits.
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post Nov 22 2017, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 22 2017, 01:21 AM) *
Odds are that driverless cars will eventually go faster - because they are better driven they will be safer at high speeds.

But you don't need driverless cars to speed limit cars - all you need is a GPS, a link to the engine management computer thingy and a bit of software - absolute doddle costing very little to implement. They should have been fitting them in cars for ten years - many would use them even if there was an off switch. After a few years it would be socially unacceptable to use the off switch.

It's already well in hand, only it will be called 'road pricing'.
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post Nov 22 2017, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 22 2017, 01:50 AM) *
It's already well in hand, only it will be called 'road pricing'.

Including variable charge rates based on time of day.
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post Nov 22 2017, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 22 2017, 01:21 AM) *
Odds are that driverless cars will eventually go faster - because they are better driven they will be safer at high speeds.

But you don't need driverless cars to speed limit cars - all you need is a GPS, a link to the engine management computer thingy and a bit of software - absolute doddle costing very little to implement. They should have been fitting them in cars for ten years - many would use them even if there was an off switch. After a few years it would be socially unacceptable to use the off switch.


Spot on. Indeed even mechanical governors have been around since even before the birth of motor vehicles; even if only on a crude basis. Why does anyone need a vehicle that can exceed the national speed limit? Such things perhaps should have been fitted for years, but it is a political issue. The same one which discourages the increased use of camera surveillance for speed enforcement and other violations.


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post Nov 22 2017, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 22 2017, 06:21 AM) *
Spot on. Indeed even mechanical governors have been around since even before the birth of motor vehicles; even if only on a crude basis. Why does anyone need a vehicle that can exceed the national speed limit? Such things perhaps should have been fitted for years, but it is a political issue. The same one which discourages the increased use of camera surveillance for speed enforcement and other violations.

Agreed , my first car had a top speed of 85mph and that was an MG . Now there are very few models that are not capable of speeds in excess of 100 , but why when the perpetrator runs the risk of being fined for doing so ? It would cost pence to have a warning siren that corresponded to the limit at the time and the technology is not a problem . One can only conclude that the revenue generated is more important than the third party victims of said speeding .


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post Nov 22 2017, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 22 2017, 09:41 AM) *
Agreed , my first car had a top speed of 85mph and that was an MG . Now there are very few models that are not capable of speeds in excess of 100 , but why when the perpetrator runs the risk of being fined for doing so ? It would cost pence to have a warning siren that corresponded to the limit at the time and the technology is not a problem . One can only conclude that the revenue generated is more important than the third party victims of said speeding .

Many cars now have a speed control system, it relies on map data and cameras which can actually read speed signs as you pass them, very clever. It just needs the men in grey to legislate that these can not be organically switched.


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post Nov 22 2017, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 22 2017, 10:58 AM) *
Many cars now have a speed control system, it relies on map data and cameras which can actually read speed signs as you pass them, very clever. It just needs the men in grey to legislate that these can not be organically switched.


One of the advantages of driving a 20 year old bus is that one seldom comes in contact with the modern car's cockpit . Assuming I am still compos mentis by 2040 I will , hopefully , recall your comment .


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post Nov 22 2017, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 22 2017, 10:58 AM) *
Many cars now have a speed control system, it relies on map data and cameras which can actually read speed signs as you pass them, very clever. It just needs the men in grey to legislate that these can not be organically switched.


I hadn't realised they were so available - the first step is to legislate so that all new cars must have them fitted and older models have them retrofitted within a few years. Once they are commonplace increase speeding fines/penalties massively (an automatic 1 month ban for instance) - so drivers opt to use them. Once most are using them habitually public opinion will approve of the off switch being removed.
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 22 2017, 01:34 PM) *
I hadn't realised they were so available - the first step is to legislate so that all new cars must have them fitted and older models have them retrofitted within a few years. Once they are commonplace increase speeding fines/penalties massively (an automatic 1 month ban for instance) - so drivers opt to use them. Once most are using them habitually public opinion will approve of the off switch being removed.


Few would have any issue with that, but it's likely to be one of those issues like making errant Dads pay maintenance; we all agree until it comes to physical implementation. I suspect if there was a political will, the start will come when insurance companies start upping their premiums for drivers who don't have such systems installed.


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