IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Call for more powers to local councils., As if we didn't have enough to worry about!
On the edge
post Nov 30 2014, 04:52 PM
Post #1


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30266834

I have to say, as far as I'm concerned, this would be the biggest downside to the devolution no vote. Whilst logically, it might seem the right answer to restore and give back powers to local councils, their antics round here suggest that they can't cope with the power they have already.

We do have a model, Newbury Town Council was restored, after a period of abolition, but it's been an unmitigated disaster. Equally, WBC was created (in reality) by giving a district council far more powers than they had previously. Again, that Council has hardly covered itself in glory.

In spite of the large number of councillors, at local level, we seem unable to find effective leaders at any level. I can't see that we'd correct that simply by giving the Councils even more power.

Yes, there needs to be an English counter to the devolved 'governments' elsewhere, or we'll end up with a Charter Trustees model; a convenient milch cow to subsidise spending. But this proposal is surely the wrong answer.


--------------------
Know your place!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
Andy Capp
post Dec 5 2014, 12:36 PM
Post #2


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 11,902
Joined: 3-September 09
Member No.: 317



That idea works well in China, Russia, etc...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
On the edge
post Dec 5 2014, 03:33 PM
Post #3


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98



QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 5 2014, 12:36 PM) *
That idea works well in China, Russia, etc...


Yeah, it's very similar to what we have right now, only difference was that party members (vis Councillors) who didn't follow the party manifesto got set to a gulag....having seen the LibDem web site shame we haven't followed suit! tongue.gif


--------------------
Know your place!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cognosco
post Dec 5 2014, 04:16 PM
Post #4


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 2,452
Joined: 31-October 10
Member No.: 1,212



QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 5 2014, 03:33 PM) *
Yeah, it's very similar to what we have right now, only difference was that party members (vis Councillors) who didn't follow the party manifesto got set to a gulag....having seen the LibDem web site shame we haven't followed suit! tongue.gif


This rabble ought to be sent somewhere I reckon they could give any communist party a run for their money when it comes to running a closed dictatorship organisation. angry.gif

Still I suppose they don't send someone to a Gulag, they just declare you vexatious and ensure you are unable to have any dealings with their little secretive club. rolleyes.gif


--------------------
Vexatious Candidate?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Simon Kirby
post Dec 5 2014, 07:17 PM
Post #5


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 6,326
Joined: 20-July 10
From: Wash Common
Member No.: 1,011



QUOTE (Cognosco @ Dec 5 2014, 04:16 PM) *
Still I suppose they don't send someone to a Gulag, they just declare you vexatious and ensure you are unable to have any dealings with their little secretive club. rolleyes.gif

You'll like this:

After being turned down for my allotment I wrote to the Council complaining that I was being victimised. The Council said they wouldn't investigate my complaint unless I supplied specific evidence, so I wrote to the Council asking for the e-mails, notes, and minutes relating to my eviction. I get this reply this evening:

QUOTE (Newbury Town Council)
Further to your earlier emails below I can confirm that your FOI request has been reviewed by the Town Council and is considered as vexatious under s14(1) of the FOI Act


It's hard work, it really is.


--------------------
Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cognosco
post Dec 5 2014, 07:55 PM
Post #6


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 2,452
Joined: 31-October 10
Member No.: 1,212



QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 5 2014, 07:17 PM) *
You'll like this:

After being turned down for my allotment I wrote to the Council complaining that I was being victimised. The Council said they wouldn't investigate my complaint unless I supplied specific evidence, so I wrote to the Council asking for the e-mails, notes, and minutes relating to my eviction. I get this reply this evening:



It's hard work, it really is.


Post what information you require and let one of us put in a FOI for you! angry.gif




--------------------
Vexatious Candidate?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Simon Kirby
post Dec 5 2014, 09:36 PM
Post #7


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 6,326
Joined: 20-July 10
From: Wash Common
Member No.: 1,011



QUOTE (Cognosco @ Dec 5 2014, 07:55 PM) *
Post what information you require and let one of us put in a FOI for you! angry.gif

Careful with that. Multiple requests starts to engage other reasons to refuse the request as vexatious. Thanks for your support though.


--------------------
Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- On the edge   Call for more powers to local councils.   Nov 30 2014, 04:52 PM
- - Simon Kirby   The Local Government Association is the trade body...   Nov 30 2014, 07:19 PM
- - MontyPython   Whilst I would like to see more powers devolved lo...   Dec 1 2014, 07:25 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Dec 1 2014, 07:25 PM...   Dec 2 2014, 01:14 AM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Dec 1 2014, 08:25 PM...   Dec 2 2014, 10:12 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Dec 2 2014, 10:12 PM) ...   Dec 2 2014, 11:18 PM
|- - Lolly   QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 2 2014, 11:18 PM) T...   Dec 4 2014, 10:22 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Lolly @ Dec 4 2014, 10:22 AM) I th...   Dec 4 2014, 12:50 PM
||- - Lolly   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 4 2014, 12:50 PM) ...   Dec 4 2014, 09:53 PM
||- - On the edge   QUOTE (Lolly @ Dec 4 2014, 09:53 PM) Mayb...   Dec 4 2014, 10:08 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Lolly @ Dec 4 2014, 10:22 AM) I th...   Dec 4 2014, 10:49 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 4 2014, 10:49 PM) W...   Dec 4 2014, 11:00 PM
- - Cognosco   The main criteria is to make any local Councils ac...   Dec 1 2014, 07:48 PM
- - On the edge   Not totally convinced that it was all the fault of...   Dec 2 2014, 08:03 AM
|- - MontyPython   QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 2 2014, 08:03 AM...   Dec 2 2014, 04:26 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 2 2014, 08:03 AM...   Dec 2 2014, 05:58 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 2 2014, 05:58 PM...   Dec 2 2014, 11:14 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 2 2014, 11:14 PM) W...   Dec 3 2014, 05:05 PM
|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 3 2014, 06:05 PM...   Dec 3 2014, 09:23 PM
|- - MontyPython   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Dec 3 2014, 09:23 PM) ...   Dec 3 2014, 10:06 PM
|- - Lolly   QUOTE (MontyPython @ Dec 3 2014, 10:06 PM...   Dec 4 2014, 10:49 AM
- - Andy Capp   All Councillors can do is organise protests or pet...   Dec 3 2014, 01:44 PM
|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 3 2014, 01:44 PM) ...   Dec 3 2014, 03:59 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Cognosco @ Dec 3 2014, 03:59 PM) S...   Dec 3 2014, 05:20 PM
|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 3 2014, 05:20 PM) ...   Dec 3 2014, 06:04 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Cognosco @ Dec 3 2014, 06:04 PM) ....   Dec 3 2014, 06:58 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 3 2014, 06:58 PM) W...   Dec 3 2014, 07:15 PM
- - On the edge   I'm with Simon K on this. The party constitut...   Dec 3 2014, 10:27 PM
- - Andy Capp   The 'shareholders' keep voting for the sam...   Dec 3 2014, 10:40 PM
- - On the edge   Let's eliminate this pointless charade then. I...   Dec 3 2014, 10:45 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 3 2014, 10:45 PM...   Dec 3 2014, 11:16 PM
|- - Lolly   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 5 2014, 07:17 PM...   Dec 5 2014, 08:03 PM
- - x2lls   There has to be a public interest in regard to thi...   Dec 5 2014, 09:43 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 27th April 2024 - 01:48 PM